George Broussard in #Quake2   7-5-97

Log by PantherX
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Session Start: Sat Jul 05 21:48:52 1997
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<DoomGaze> 4h sucks.
<Gnomon> salem, beleive that I'm lagged?
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<John_Galt> George..those ForLoops just don't make sense when 
   the world is warped around you does it?
<Hellscrea> brb..in a coupla days
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<salem> yeah!
<Gnomon> salem, I'm not! My ISP disconnected me!
<GeorgB3DR> john:  nope.  working on a map and all the grid 
   lines are buggin me out ;)
<salem> Well maybe not now, but you were before.  You were 
   asking Hook stuff like 5 minutes after he left. :)
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, does Prey have a Quake-style console? 
   What is the non-game interface?
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<salem> prey has a console!
<Gnomon> salem, strange...  :)
<GeorgB3DR> gnom:  not that far yet.  mightr/might not have a 
   console.
<Gnomon> prey has a console
<Gnomon> ?
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<salem> yeah, I think *you* told me that.
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<Nigel> Heya George
<Gnomon> George, consoles rock  :)   Then again, I'm biased.
<GeorgB3DR> nigel...
<Gnomon> salem, did I?
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<salem> yeah, I think so.
<Cow|> okay
<porkchop> gnomon: isnt everyone in #quake2 biased?   =)
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<Cow|> im sutpid
<Cow|> i pick up the secon line
<Cow|> fuckin pohne
<Hellscrea> I love taunting the f00ls in #AOL
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<Gnomon> porckchop, yeah.
<Chaza> George: Prey, Win95 only or will there be ports?
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<WU-PagCow> #aol Position Available: Lamer of the Day, Inquire 
   Within (#Emu-ers Need NOT Apply)
<GeorgB3DR> chaza: Win 95 first, and we'll see about rest
<porkchop> only 5 people in #prey, and one is definitely a bot
<WU-PagCow> Aol have lamers?
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<WU-PagCow> Fuck man just 139 them all
<EliteTech> kill the bot in #prey!
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<Bunso> *** You were kicked from #aol by Krusty (aheheheh 
   onlien.no??)
<Bunso> -
<Bunso> #aol unable to rejoin channel (you're banned!)
<Bunso> :)
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<Bunso> i didn't say anything bad there though :)
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, are Prey levels dynamically downloadable?
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<BA-Cosmo> hey will some one port 139 i want to see if it works 
   with memphis
<Tonic> aahah
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<GeorgB3DR> gn: haven't done net stuff yet
<Hellscrea> their bots are to odamn stupid in #prey
<EliteTech> Bunso, Neither did I
<eRaD> who has memphis?
<Vlad|Drak> alright, get yer capslock ready.. time to bumrush 
   #aol (yes, im bored)
<Hellscrea> I like they Quake2 bot...
<Tonic> i do
<QwertMan> Who here uses scripts?
<Hellscrea> HEy PureEvil!
<WU-PagCow> 139 fucks memphis i think
<EliteTech> I have WinHEC Release 2 Build 1525
<Hellscrea> He must be broke today
<WU-PagCow> but you can fix it by hex editing one of the files
<WU-GFK> /w 
<NetGuy> #aol is full :P
<Vlad|Drak> YUP
<QwertMan> Who here uses scripts?
<Vlad|Drak> wups :)
<Bunso> Georgie boy, will prey have any nekkid chicks :D  
   (please answer this with "We're 3drealms aren't we?" :D
<PantherX> 9 peeps max
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, I don't mean over the net - I mean can 
   an external program modify a currently-loaded level?
<BA-Cosmo> i have memphis
<R|ker> #Aol is lame.. they think they are l33t
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<BA-Cosmo> i want to see what 139 does to it
<R|ker> but they are lam3
<porkchop> laters
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<WU-PagCow> i heard that its not goint  to be windows 95
<WU-PagCow> doh
<WU-PagCow> i mena
<WU-PagCow> no 97
<WU-PagCow> ist going to be windows 98
<Budreau> George: are you going to have anything like "QuakeC" 
   for Prey? (I am dumb, I don't look at Prey too much)
<EliteTech> it's Win98
<GeorgB3DR> bud: Sure
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<salem> George:  What games do you guys plays at 3dR?  Do you DM 
   a lot?
<MaxMoAWAY> PreyC
<BA-Cosmo> they havent decided on a name yet or at least i cant 
   tell you what it is :)
<EliteTech> Microsoft has already started making manuals..
<MAD-DOG> George: Do you know if there will be a level editor 
   included with Prey when it is released?
<GeorgB3DR> salem: we play Diablo, Quake, Tomb Raider etc.  
   Usually the top games
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<WU-PagCow> uh
<Gnomon> Budreau, Prey has a compiled script kind of thing. At 
   last check of course  :)
<MaxMoAWAY> Preditor
<GeorgB3DR> mad:  Yes, but it's a while off yet
<WU-PagCow> geroge is here?
<EliteTech> BA, Well theres proof that it's Win98
<WU-PagCow> cool
<Gnomon> PagCow, yeah.
<WU-PagCow> Yes man its georgeB!
<WU-PagCow> hey man
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<Budreau> I don't look at Prey too much.
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<BA-Cosmo> elite: yeh where did you read the memphis manuals yet 
   :)
<Budreau> Do not have the time
<WU-PagCow> you like the person who has waisted hundreds and 
   hudreds of hours of my time with your games!
<MaxMoAWAY> Elite:Win98 is 95 and NT together right?
<salem> George:  Do you guys ever check out any of the Quake 
   mods that are released? (ctf, tf, etc.)
<TRAXX|CR> memphis...
<WU-PagCow> congrats!
<Budreau> But I know it will be killer
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  sure.  I haven't lately due to no time
<BA-Cosmo> memphis comes with the same or almost the same ones 
   nt comes with
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, are the models keyframe or are they 
   moved on the fly?
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<BA-Cosmo> err screen savers
<Gollum> Hi
<GeorgB3DR> gnom: Prey model are kinematic/interpolated.  smooth 
   as hell
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<Slipgate> George... i'm surprised that you don't hang in 
   #duke4ever, is there no channel by that name?
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<BA-Cosmo> and elite do you happen have memphis on your computer
<salem> George: what's the max poly count for prey models?
<Bunso> george, what kindof framerate does your current version 
   of prey get on a p100 with a 3dfx board? (if you've tried it)
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, sounds nice...
<BA-Cosmo> damn slip is here
<R|ker> Mr. Broussard, will it have addons like bots and things?
<BA-Cosmo> this suxs
<Avro> I heard somewhere that Prey will be 3daccelerator 
   required, is this true?
<WU-PagCow> its gB
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<Bunso> there is a channel called #duke4ever  ,  pretty empty 
   right now though :\
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  dunno yet.  We think 700-1000 or so though.  
   surrent ones are 650+
<Slipgate> avro... yes.
<Gnomon> Avro, yes.
<MaxMoAWAY> Bunso:they are making prey on a P200
<GeorgB3DR> avro:  Yes, Prey requieres 3Dfx or comparable 
   accelerator
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<R|ker> Mr. Broussard, will it have addons like bots and things?
<GeorgB3DR> max:  Actually Prey runs on a P90 and 3Dfx
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<Gollum> I want a 3dfx bad
<GeorgB3DR> riker:  Yes, but Prey is late next year.  don't get 
   too excited this early ;)
<MaxMoAWAY> no way!
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, will Prey have scripts or comparable 
   stuff on the client side?
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: why do you brag and talk about Prey if u 
   havent even started working on DNF? I mean ur still working 
   on SW :\
<GeorgB3DR> gno: probably.  all willunfold this year.
<MaxMoAWAY> Goerge:I will watch prey chop on P90s
<salem> George:  are you guys working on any kinda new DM 
   concepts (like ctf for example) or will DM in prey be kill 
   everything that moves kinda stuff?
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, good stuff  :)
<WU-PagCow> DAMNit
<WU-PagCow> fuck!!
<GeorgB3DR> iso:  huh? We talk about Prey because 1) it's going 
   fast amd 2) it's cool.  your point?
<WU-PagCow> mom just slamed the window on my finger
<WU-PagCow> AHHHHH!!
<Isolation> Well
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<Budreau> George: How will multiplayer be set up? Like how many 
   players, can you join in a game like you can with Quake?
<GeorgB3DR> salem: we'll do what people want and what's popular 
   at the time
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<Gnomon> salem, Prey gameplay is oriented around Talon Brave 
   transported to a different planet, where three races live - 
   and they want to kill you.
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<GeorgB3DR> bud:  Will be at least Quake level and probaby more. 
<BA-Cosmo> thats the reason i didnt like duke it was a pain in 
   the ass to play mulit player
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<BA-Cosmo> damn i need to learn how to type faster
<Isolation> my point is...u still have yet to show us much..yeah 
   a trailer and some screenshots (which in mho arent great) I 
   want to see more if u are going to start talking about 
   it..and u still have to finish dnf..but u tell people we have 
   to wait another year for prey just talk and worry about dnf 
   then talk all u want about prey
<GeorgB3DR> iso: um, ok
<Isolation> eh
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<WU-PagCow> GerogeB: i rember you guys saying that the engin is 
   going to support as many network players as the server could 
   hold is that true?
<Isolation> my grammer sux
<Lord> word
<downinit> when are you going to stop accecpting submisions for 
   Prey mappers?
<GeorgB3DR> i'm not talking about anything.  merely responding 
   to q's
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<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: worry about SW and Dn then do all u want 
   for prey
<GeorgB3DR> down:  when we find guys we like
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, irritating question time... how much of 
   an impact has Quake had on Prey's development?
<salem> George and Iso: there are two different teams working on 
   DNF and Prey, correct?
<Vincey> hola mon hoats
<Gnomon> Sorry, had to ask  :)
<Vincey> goats even
<Lord> eh vincey
<GeorgB3DR> gnom: time wise?  zero
<WU-PagCow> hey
<BA-Cosmo> stupid ?: what the fuck is SW?
<WU-PagCow> georgeB why are you in #quake2 instead of #Prey?
<Gnomon> isolation, Prey sounds wicked.
<WU-PagCow> trying to steal some attention? huh ;)
<GeorgB3DR> wu:  just passing through
<WU-GFK> SW = Shadow Warrior
<WU-PagCow> hehehhe
<WU-PagCow> =]
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<GeorgB3DR> wu:  yeah that's it
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<BA-Cosmo> oh thanxs... duh :/
<MultiSync> [Baron] Charge!!! <30 sec. later> RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
<Budreau> George: With all the delays, can you expect Prey to be 
   done by the end of '97?
* Vincey is idling, don't mind my lame ass
<WU-GFK> georgB3DR: please call us the name after WU, cause 
   there are 4 WUs in here usually :)
<TE-Vorpal> BAROOOOON!
<WU-GFK> gerogB3DR: my name is GFK :)
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<WU-PagCow> heh
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, nah, not time-wise... I meant in term of 
   gameplay issues.
<Lord> Budreau: hell no!
<WU-PagCow> Mine is Cow
<WU-PagCow> or pagan
<TE-Vorpal> heheh
<salem> ghost ..... face.... killah....
<WU-PagCow> or Pagancow
<GeorgB3DR> bud:  Prey really started in Nov 96 (when we 
   scrapped it all) and started over.  It'll be out end 98 or 
   later
<Baron> hullo
<Avro> In an earlier SCOOP I read in PC Gamer, Prey was going to 
   be sort of a single player deathmatch, is this what you are 
   still aiming for?
<Budreau> Hey, I know nothing.
<GeorgB3DR> gno: no
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<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: so erm...Will DNF and Prey be compitition 
   or is the prey superior to dnf?
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, cool... Ok, another bad one. An 
   interesting trend is online communities, will Prey have 
   support for anything like that?
<GeorgB3DR> avro: it'll be a 3d action game with really cool 
   technology
<Hellscrea> um...
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<Gnomon> Cool tech? Understatement.
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<WU-PagCow> You guys are just like not even going into full 
   scale programing you guys are really just makin maps for prey
<GeorgB3DR> gno:  probably, again it's far off
<PantherX> Duke4 will come out this year and Prey next year, 
  they won't compete.....
<Gnomon> Hellscrea, hiya!  :)
<PantherX> ....much
<GeorgB3DR> WU:  Um, 3 coders are working full time dude
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, wicked. Absolutely wicked.
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<WU-PagCow> oh
<WU-PagCow> cool
<WU-PagCow> heh
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<R|ker> Mr. Broussard, What will Prey groups be called. task 
   Forces, clans, cults. gangs, aquads?
<Isolation> Gnomon: call him george
<MaxMoAWAY> George:I want at least 700 pixcels on the Duke4 
   strippers
<Lord> Gnomon: ok, lets kiss more ass
<WU-PagCow> LOL
<salem> George:  Have you considered hiring Gnomon as your 
   offcial Prey cheerleader?
<Isolation> why the fook are u alll calling him Mr?
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<EliteTech> more looks like Task Forces.
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<PantherX> Tribes of course.....it's an indian as main character
<GeorgB3DR> riker:  dunno yet?  Since main char is an Indian, 
   maybe "Tribes?"
<Vincey> bwahahahahahahahaha
<Gnomon> Lord, whatever.
<Isolation> salem: bwhahaha
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<WU-PagCow> yeah the dancing cave woman in REAL 3d
<Bunso> pantherx-> duke4 won't be out this year
<salem> that would be a decent jobb...
<Tonic> Ayone know where i can get the re-bsp'd dm3 for 
   transparent water at
<R|ker> George: Tribes? awesome
<WU-PagCow> And dukes like "ohh baby lets see under..."
<Gnomon> Isolation, no. His nick is hard to type, so I'm using 
   the next best thing.
<WU-PagCow> hheheh
<PantherX> Lithium is the unofficial Prey Cheerleader....check 
  out http://www.preystation.com
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<EliteTech> Panther, Duke4ever 2nd Qtr 98..or "when it's ready"
<Shade> hey all
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: so erm...Will DNF and Prey be compitition 
   or is the prey superior to dnf?
<salem> Ha, yeah, fergot about Lith.
<Shade> what up
<PantherX> So what.....they won't compete
<WU-GFK> GeorgB3DR: who did duke's voice?
<Gnomon> salem, hehe  :)
<MaxMoAWAY> shameless plugs huh Pant?
<GeorgB3DR> iso:  Prey should be superior in tech, also out 
   after Duke
<WU-PagCow> that guy who does teh voice is cool!
<WU-PagCow> "
<salem> George: will there be scalping in prey?
<GeorgB3DR> WU:  Jon St. John
<PantherX> John St. John.....(helpin out) 
<WU-GFK> heheh
<WU-PagCow> "make it so....Numer one mr laforge engage Mr data 
   suck my dick =]
<WU-PagCow> "
<WU-GFK> i gotta shake his hand
<PantherX> Geez.....I need a life
<Gnomon> salem, ugh.
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  We're 3DR.  Maybe ;)
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<MAD-DOG> George: Do you know if anyone has asked, or looking 
   into using the prey engine for another game (any kind of 
   game)?
<PantherX> George can I get that .,wav uncensoered???
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: i heard a romour or maybe it is true that 
   Prey is all hardware..and completly sucks as a software 
   engine..what can u say aboyut this?
<WU-PagCow> Yeah man
<WU-PagCow> same with panther :)
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<GeorgB3DR> mad:  We've been getting lotsa licensing offers for 
   Prey.  We won'ty do anyting till early in the year
<salem> George: From a modeller's standpoint, it would be cool 
   to model skin peeling off a skull.
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<MultiSync> [Nigel] Graphics and more, eh?
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<MultiSync> [SHiPPY] He's here!  The one, the only, the SHiPPY!  
   OH MY GOD!
<GeorgB3DR> iso:  Prey has no software engine.  We threw it out 
   and are skipping everyone else.  Prey is hardware only
<Vincey> i suck as a software engine
<GeorgB3DR> period
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, is there an AI guy for Prey yet?
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  yes
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: so what are the "requirements" for prey?
<salem> Ah!  the real point of the "Mr. Broussard" thing.
<Vincey> 3Dfx card
<Gnomon> Cool.
<Isolation> Vincey: shhh
<GeorgB3DR> iso:  A pentium (something) and a 3Dfx card (or 
   other similar card), probably 32 megs of ram
<Lord> Isolation: alpha 2/266
<GeorgB3DR> um, no
<WU-PagCow> i saw the screen shot for prey i liked it how the 
   lighting was realistic when the light was slanted on the wall 
   going down (it looked quite real to me)
<MaxMoAWAY> George:You get Prey to run at 2 fps on a 486 DX2-66 
   with 8mb of ram and 1mb vid card.I will 3D Realms Electric 
   bill for 1998.:D
<Gnomon> salem, nope - I'm not a coder.
<jaspur> George: any thoughts or impressions about what was 
   shown(as a whole) at E3?
<salem> Batch!
<RADKade1> sgi workstation?
<GeorgB3DR> jas:  most games at E3 were "ok"
<Gnomon> salem, "Batch"?
<digsavior> George: will duke forever/prey support Positional 3D 
   audio
<digsavior> gfk: an LA disc jockey
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<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: well what if little billy who only has a 
   p120 and 16megs of ram and is 12 who cant get a job without a 
   3dfx card...and hes a huge duke3d fan..what are u going to do 
   about those people?
<GeorgB3DR> dig:  Maybe, that seems to be getting more popular
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<GeorgB3DR> Duke Forever is based onm Quake 2 engine, so what it 
   does, Duke will do
<Isolation> er
<Isolation> who cant get a job to buy a 3dfx card
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<WU-GFK> i cant
<GeorgB3DR> iso:L  too bad, he's screwed
<salem> Iso: become a chickenhawk.
<WU-PagCow> not me
<WU-PagCow> im only 12
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<WU-PagCow> i cant work
<GeorgB3DR> every serious gamer will have a 3Dfx or other card 
   in 1998
<WU-PagCow> not LEAGIALLY
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<WU-PagCow> but like
<nofxsux> hhahaahahaha
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<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: well...u just lost a client
<GeorgB3DR> get real.  who DOESn't have a SB sound card?
<GeorgB3DR> iso: byr byr
<Vincey> i'm 14, i dig cows, and i have a 3Dfx.. so wewp
<BA-Cosmo> damn i cant play prey oh well scure 3d realms i let 
   the go fuck themselves
<R|ker> damn it smeg
<WU-PagCow> if i go to mexico i can pull off some taco bell shit 
   =]
<salem> Ooh!  George, Iso dissed you, man.
<R|ker> i think u are gettin nuked
<RADKade1> GeorgB3DR - aren't you being a little lazy, not 
   bothering to code games for the rest of us?
<Isolation> salem: shut up
<GeorgB3DR> iso will have a 3Dfx card next year anyway...
<salem> lazy?
<salem> wtf....
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, that brings up a point - how 
   extensive/important is the use of sound in Prey?
<RADKade1> course, I'm getting a loaded p2-266 real soon
<PantherX> In two years if you don't have a #D card you will be 
  a fossil
<WU-PagCow> hey man
<GLOCK> George:Will Prey have something like QuakeWorld
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: i have a 3dfx card..im talking about 
   little billy
<WU-PagCow> this guy works  hard
<Lord> RADKade1: shup :P
<Lord> :)
<WU-PagCow> Show him some respect
<GeorgB3DR> rad:  No, software renderers hold you back.  in 2 
   years or so 3D cards will be standard and people won't evern 
   write software engines anymore
<Bunso> it's true,  people are even starting talk about building 
   3d support into the processors or motherboards,dammit
<Budreau> By next year, the 3DFX will look like an S3 ViRGE
<Budreau> It will be cheap
<Vincey> Budreau: By next year we'll all have 3Dfx Banshees
<Dent> hey i got an s3 virge
<SHiPPY> Budreau: umm..not it won't
<Tonic> not true
<Isolation> too bad..little william will be sad!
<SHiPPY> Budreau: virges suck :P
<Slipgate> digital savior..... see our query window.
<RADKade1> Lord - no more sucky sucky for you, muchacho
<Budreau> I do too
<Dent> tell me
<WU-PagCow> ViRGE sucks's
* Bunso kicks little william
<Bunso> :D
<WU-PagCow> except for virge descent 2 but tahts about it
<Lord> RADKade1: oh come on! :)
<Bunso> "Get a job you slacker!"
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, hehe... Someone will have to get a 
   consumer-level card that supports nurbs then  :)
<GeorgB3DR> little william's cheap ass mom should buy him a card 
   ;)
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<Vincey> Descent 2 on virge sucks imho
<WU-PagCow> "get Back to work you slacker!"
<RADKade1> well
<PantherX> Iso......little william is the kind of gamer who is 
  just discovering Duke3d....in a few months he'll discover 
  Quake.....little billy is always behind.
<Vincey> 3Dfx D2.. now that's nice :)
<Gnomon> Hehe
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<Bunso> wu-pagcow-> great minds think alike :D
<RADKade1> no putting prey on the computers at school and dming 
   :P
* Vincey shups now
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: that was too easy to retiliate i wont 
   bother
<Budreau> I agree ViRGES suck
<WU-PagCow> hehj
<GeorgB3DR> you mean retaliate?
<Lord> Vincey: 50" TV and an Obsidain Pro >:)
<Gnomon> Isolation, chill.
<WU-PagCow> Lord: fuck yeha :)
<Gnomon> Obsidian Pro... yum........
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<Vincey> Lord: ya, getting mine tomorrow
<Vincey> :)
<salem> Now we know why Iso it so.... isolated.
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: doh
<nofxsux> hahahahaah
<salem> is
<Lord> heh
<Bunso> We need to start up a petition (or whatever it's called) 
    to get lucasarts to have opengl support in jedi knight, and 
   not direct3d !!
<BA-Cosmo> well school is about to start another couple of weeks 
   time to get the newest in hacking for novelle networks bbl..
<GeorgB3DR> cool, arguing with iso, fixed my headache ;)  thanks 
   dude
<Lord> salem: don't dis mah merchandise
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: anytime
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<Dent> mom? can you buy me a vid card so i can kill more 
   realistic monsters?
<Gnomon> Bunso, maybe you should just ask.
<salem> lord: er, what?
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<eRaD> BARON@
<eRaD> er!
<Vincey> Bunso: The point of that would be? Lower the number of 
   3D cards it supports?
<SHiPPY> I'm getting a monster on monday
<Gnomon> Dent, hehe
<GeorgB3DR> bunso:  doens't matter.  they will have direct 3dfx 
   support, so most people will get rockin' performance
<Bunso> Gnomon-> don't spoil the fun :D
<RADKade1> Dent - works with my dad
<RADKade1> :)
<Baron> sup erad
<TE-Vorpal> Bunso: nice idea, but it's probably too late for 
   that (unless you want to wait another year for JK to come 
   out...)
<PantherX> Little Billy will have to settle for Duke 
  4ever...which will rock IMHO
<GeorgB3DR> every developer supports 3dfx directly, so gl or d3d 
   don't really matter
* Shade attention "Everyone now send email to bunso about having 
  opengl instead of direct3d in Jedi knight
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: what do you feel about the 'trinity' engine?
* John_Galt kicks his computer...banned from #bible again....
<GeorgB3DR> shippy:  i'm sure it'll be cool
<Gnomon> Bunso, <grin>
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<TE-Vorpal> Hi JOhn_Galt
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<Gnomon> I want to see Contact.
<SHiPPY> Gnomon: me to
<Bunso> btw...anyone here who has problems with motoracer being 
   slow on a p100 w monster3d card?  i sure have :(
<salem> George:  How much do you think it'll cost to license 
   trinity?
<GeorgB3DR> salem: dunno, a $1
<Crittre> LagosMooV ?
<SHiPPY> salem: a shitload
<RADKade1> PantherX - 3dr using the q2 engine
<RADKade1> ugh
<RADKade1> ;)
<TE-Vorpal> Isn't #bible on the perv list? :p
<Shade> i'm sorry bunso
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: will prey have anything from the good ol 
   duke3d engine?
<Vincey> haha
<Shade> not really but....
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<Vincey> Bunso: motoracer requires higher than that
<BA-Cosmo> bunso: get a ppro II 266 mmx
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<PantherX> That's old news my friend
<Bunso> don't say that :(
<GeorgB3DR> iso: no, prey is an all new engine.
<LagosMooV> bbl rather
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<Budreau> Trinity will be hyped like Quake (or any other engine 
   for that matter), and it probably will not meet the greatest 
   expectations.
* Bunso hates his computer :(
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: you gonna release a 'qtest' for prey?
<Vincey> Bunso: Same system here, i hate it
<GeorgB3DR> shippy:  probably not. we'll see
<PantherX> Call it hope and prey ;)
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: why nut use the duke3d engine? are u 
   thinking about releasing the duke3d source code?
<GeorgB3DR> I think Qtest actually hurt quake
* eRaD 's computer hates him
* Vincey pisses on his processor to cool it off
<RADKade1> qtest == stupid
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, I don't think so  :)
<Crittre> you guys got packard-bell's or what?
<RADKade1> Vincey - :P
<Isolation> WTF?
<Bunso> yeah, george don't make some Ptest
* USteppin is away <[  qw  ]>
<SHiPPY> RADKade1: yes but it's fun to see the games right?
<RADKade1> SHiPPY - no
<EliteTech> in a way.
<The_Corn> Ptest... hehe
<RADKade1> SHiPPY - wait 'til it's done
* TE-Vorpal throws the Flounder of Scorn at GeorgB3DR
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  most people were diaapointed in qtest.  too 
   awhile to get fans back
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<The_Corn> sounds like a urine sample
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, strange... All us other people were too 
   busy deathmatching to complain  :)
<Mlook> Hi george :)
<Bunso> hehe  Peetest :D
<eRaD> ouch a unix manual
<TE-Vorpal> Georgwhatever: umm, they used qtest to get feedback
<EliteTech> I'm tierd of seeing people say, Quake Sux, stupid 
   blocky graphics, it sucks.... These people are just plain 
   stupid.
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: why nut use the duke3d engine? are u 
   thinking about releasing the duke3d source code?
<TE-Vorpal> and make the game better
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<RADKade1> Gnomon - nut me
<RADKade1> I dled quack .91
<Vincey> Isolation: You stupid
<Bunso> gnomon-> a lot of people hated qtest , me being one of 
   them
<RADKade1> deleted the next day
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<GeorgB3DR> te:  duh, i know that.  you didn't see all the 
   negative messages?  IN any case, it's all over now
<Gnomon> RADKade1, hehe  :)
<RADKade1> then dled 1.06 a month later
<Isolation> Vincey: shup
<Budreau> George: Are you planning to releasing shareware for 
   Prey? Many companies are stopping such as Raven and id.
<RADKade1> then deleted that 2 days later
<GeorgB3DR> isO;  no to both
<Dark_Hele> any plans on releasing a 3dfx patch for duke3d?
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<GeorgB3DR> bud:  id's not stopping shareware.
<salem> Budreau: id isn't stopping the share ware thing.
<The_Corn> qtest wasnt made for public opinion.. it was made for 
   people willing to test out id's networking engine and give 
   them feedback
<GeorgB3DR> dark:  3Dfx people are looking at Duke 3D/SW support 
   now.
<RADKade1> The_Brain - q2test is tho
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<Budreau> George: I overheard that it will not make a shareware 
   Quake2.
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<Dark_Hele> THANK YOU!!!!
<GeorgB3DR> man, o man
<RADKade1> Budreau - they aren't
<Budreau> I maybe wrong
<Vincey> Isolation: 1. the build engine sucks by todays 
   standards, and 2 there are games licensing build.. so like, 
   if they released the source then it would be pointless to 
   license it and 3DR won't make any $$
<Lord> heh
<salem> They never make shareware of their sequels.
<Dark_Hele> If I get your guy's address, expect something cool 
   in the mail :)
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<EliteTech> Build is old, Overused..
<GeorgB3DR> id does shareware game.  then does retail only 
   sequel.  then repeats
<Mlook> er
<Mlook> all quiet
* John_Galt is in the 3dRealms basement right now...playing 
  Prey...Hey George...I like this lave thing here...ewww...cool 
  weapon...
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<RADKade1> yah and the sequels are what the original should have 
   been
<PantherX> They made a buttload selling the Quake shareware too
<nofxsux> Gearge do you actually think you have a chance against 
   a company like id?
<EliteTech> yea
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<GeorgB3DR> no:  um, Duke 3D was like biggest game of 96 ;)  so 
   yes I do
<Isolation> ID should make CommanderKeen 3d
<EliteTech> Nofx, 3DR did pretty well with Duke3D
<Vincey> PantherX: And lost a buttload to all the ppl who 
   cracked it
<RADKade1> nofxsux - lay off the crack :P
<GeorgB3DR> question is, do other companies have a chance 
   against us and id?
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<R|ker> Duke was ok
<nofxsux> hahahaha
<PantherX> Vincey.....they still made a profit.
<salem> George:  I thought DN3D would be ported to a bunch of 
   different game systems.... will it?
<Lord> GeorgB3DR: You fat whore
<Nigel> Uh, nofx, no, he's just going to give it all up and kill 
   himself now.
<Smeglord> Quake madeduke look ike pong
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<Smeglord> made Duke
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  Duke 64, PSX, MAC and Saturn all out this 
   year
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<PantherX> It only cost them like 5 cents a CD at that volume
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<freaq> umm,..George, Iso told me to come in here and call you a 
   fat whore
<R|ker> george: answer is, NO
<freaq> Isolaation that is george
<GeorgB3DR> lord:  cool, you're like 12 right?
<salem> MAc?  Whay?
<salem> why?
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<Bunso> Id did a big mistake with having quakeregistered on 
   shareware cd, since alot of people warezed it :\
<GeorgB3DR> salem: $$$
<EliteTech> yea but they still made a huge profit
<Vincey> imho, Duke was fun the first time and then all the one 
   liners got annoying... but it was fun as hell in modem DM
<WU-PagCow> yeah
<jaspur> Half-Life impressed alot of people at e3
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<PantherX> salem......same reason Quake is out for Mac....$$$$
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, what kind of sound engine is hoped for 
   (not planned) Prey?
<Gnomon> Bunso, yeah... Lamers.
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<GeorgB3DR> gn: still researching
<salem> Quake for macs will be cool.... I will DM at school.
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<Arcane> bunso:  Man it don't matter what software companies do 
   people are going to Warez anything out there!
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<RADKade1> freaq - i luv u
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, cool.
<RADKade1> Isolation - dun ban freaq! :(
<PantherX> salem....the MAc version of Duke has TCP/IP like Quake
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<salem> okay.
<EliteTech> if the US were to crack down on every pirate just 
   about 40% of the US would be on death row :P
<salem> I'm still gonna play Quake.
<PantherX> Plus Duke TC's for PC will work on MacDuke!
<Bunso> arcane-> true,  but i think more people warezed quake, 
   when they could just unlock it, and not downloadlike a 
   zillion megabytes from the 'net
<Vincey> the only thing a software company can do to make a game 
   un-juarezable is to make it like 600mb.
<The_Corn> this is the truth: duke3d was the biggest game of 
   96... it was more appealing to the mass consumer who saw the 
   glitz and just the surface.... quake appealed to more of a 
   niche market who saw it for its deep gameplay value
<Vincey> huge
<PantherX> I tried to pirate Quake, but that hack was suck so I 
  bought it.
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: How can u say how will other companies be against 3dr 
   and id? id is alone they need no one..same with epic and others
<EliteTech> Well MacDuke has TCP/IP support
<Lord> Vincey: no compression
<Isolation> bah
<Vincey> so no one will waste their time dling it
<Bunso> How many people warezed phantasmagoria eyh! :D
<Vincey> deep gameplay value? I'm sorry
<MAD-DOG> Vincey: that wouldn't stop them!
<eRaD> everybody like DN3D's language and slight nudity
<R|ker> i pirated Quake
<Lord> or just don't optimize it, and it will suck so bad that 
   no one will want it
<Gnomon> Lord, PPMZ compression is great.
<GeorgB3DR> iso:  We need noone.  We've been around 7 years dude
<Vincey> Quake single player was boring
<EliteTech> Epic, IonStorn, Ritual..
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<GeorgB3DR> iso:  go back home ;)
<RADKade1> eRaD - uh... it sucked
<MaxMoAWAY> what did they say?
<MAD-DOG> vincey: They rip games to make them smaller
<John_Galt> Duke3D was the Biggest game of '96..but I can't 
   figure out why...QUAKE had it beat on every angle...WHat went 
   wrong?
<Vincey> DM was the shit
<RADKade1> Vincey - it sucked buttwads
<Isolation> GeorgB3DR: no..i am at home f00
<RADKade1> Vincey - that sucked too
<salem> George:  If you could p1mp slap anybody in this channel, 
   who would it be?
<eRaD> I know, but many kids like 10 years old loved it
<Budreau> Duke was more colorful
<EliteTech> I do not tolerate piracy
<Vincey> MAD-DOG: nono.. i think that if you make it's smallest 
   possible size like 600mb no one would warez it
<RADKade1> eRaD - gee. I'm glgad.
<RADKade1> er, glad
<salem> If nudey sprites give you w00d, you have problems.
<eRaD> well ok then...
<RADKade1> salem - shup
<EliteTech> developers deserve the money they should make from 
   their games.
<DooomGaze> salem: doh. ;)
* John_Galt has problems
<The_Corn> deep gameplay as in network play and modifications... 
   ctf etc.... is there as many people still playing duke3d now 
   as there are playing quake? i dont think so....
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<Bunso> i know what quake's fault was,  it wasn't half as fun to 
   play as duke3d
<TE-Vorpal> Actually, the only duke 3d based game I liked at all 
   was Redneck Rampage
<Budreau> Quake was drab, and needed too much power for the 
   average gamer
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<Lord> Bunso: duke sucked
<RADKade1> quake just like, sucked..
<Vincey> like with just the exe, textures and levels it's 
   600mb.. that way no one would dl it.. with sounds, cutscenes 
   etc it would be hugeholio
<Lord> RADKade1: bah
<RADKade1> and duke was like... sprites...
<Bunso> lord-> in my opinion quake sucked
<The_Corn> duke3d was a blast as a single player game
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<MAD-DOG> Vincey:  They pirated games that were on 4 CDs.  If 
   its out there its probable been pirated!
<Critter> duke sux
<R|ker> <Bunso> i know what 4quake's fault was,  it wasn't half 
   as fun to play as duke3d red part is funny
<Head> bunso: you should qualify that with "in single player"
<GeorgB3DR> rad:  it was also like "fun" ;)
<EliteTech> Duke is Funny, but was very "Limited"
<Lord> Bunso: and you still play rott too
<PantherX> I love Duke single player and Quake multi-player.  
  Combine the two and It will be the best 3D game ever.
<Bunso> head-> hmm, i guess so
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<EliteTech> Yea
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, will there ever be a game by 3DR that is 
   fully 3D but does not use polygons, i.e. nurbs etc?
<GeorgB3DR> pantyher:  exactly.  Welcome to Duke Nukem Forever
<The_Corn> but once you beat it that was it... quake sucked as a 
   singleplayer game but really shone as a multiplayer game
<Budreau> Duke was more realistic, in Earth terms.
<RADKade1> GeorgB3DR - okay, I guess it lasted a little longer 
   than quake
<Lord> duke lacked technological innovation
<PantherX> :)
<GeorgB3DR> gn: dunno
<Bunso> ok,  duke3d had supreme single play to quake,  but quake 
   had better deathmatch
<EliteTech> but then again 3DR has to sign an exclusive deal 
   with TEN :P
<EliteTech> had
<RADKade1> maybe a week
<WU-PagCow> HEy georgeB: you need to work a Deal out with ID and 
   make the Best game ever made =] that would kick so much ass
* TE-Vorpal starts the pilot light on the flaming urine projector
<RADKade1> before it went in the recycle bin :)
<GeorgB3DR> wu: yeah, it probably would
<PantherX> Pagan....it's called Duke4ever (Quake2 engine)
<RADKade1> but duke was still boring in the end...
<salem> George:  Do you think you could beat up Paul Steed?
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<PantherX> haha
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, hmmm... Ok, does Prey support FULL 
   rotation along every axis?
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  why would I want to?
<The_Corn> pag: that'll happen as soon as sega and nintendo 
   combine and make a single video game system together :)
<TE-Vorpal> Exclusive deals with pay-to-play services blow goats
<GeorgB3DR> gn: yes, yes, yes and yes
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<WU-PagCow> No i mean id and 3ds do somthig togther like the 
   guys actually get togher and DO somehint so awesomily cool
<salem> George:  Because you're just an animal, man.
<PantherX> Oh like Marvel vs. DC comics?
<GeorgB3DR> te: not an issue with Prey or Duke forever as they 
   will be on TEN, but we'll also leave in FREE PLAY like Quake
<Critter> 14i see a spider on my wall, which weapon should i use?
<EliteTech> at least id didn't make any exclusives
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<salem> What if Paul ripped your arms off?  How would you design 
   games?
<The_Corn> pag: it would be a conflict of interests... it 
   wouldnt work
<Vincey> ten sucks so much
<EliteTech> yea I know
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, so do you beleive that 6-axis 
   controllers are appropriate to games like Quake/Prey?
<PantherX> Critter: your mother
<TE-Vorpal> George: good :]
<SHiPPY> Critter: use the axe
<Bunso> george-> i'll bet ten will kill you if you do that :D
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<Gnomon> Critter, your Hellcube!
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  not good enough yet
* Vincey pisses on ten
<GeorgB3DR> bunso:  No, already done deal dude
<GeorgB3DR> we can do what we want
<EliteTech> TEN lags too much
<Avro> George: do you find these chats tiresom? I know I would 
   if I was you. ;)
<PantherX> I bet people play Quake on TEN.
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: you gonna have some sort of 'pushlatency' 
   command?
<GeorgB3DR> avro:  at times...
<Avro> hehe
<EliteTech> Panther, as a matter of fact it's pretty decent 
   sometimes
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<TE-Vorpal> PantherX: only people who like pissing there money 
   away
<salem> George:  How'd you get your start in the gaming industry?
<Budreau> Quake got popular in Deathmatch by the fact you could 
   used servers for free.
<BA-Cosmo> tenand mplayer blow jacksons 
<Head> pantherx: should be "I bet llamas play quake on TEN" :)
<PantherX> Elite???  I can't belive that!  That's like 
  well....like Vorpal sez pissing money away
<EliteTech> you what sucks...Newbies playing QUAKE on 
   Mplayer...Lag City!
<GeorgB3DR> salem: Was a die hard gamer forever, started making 
   small shareware games.  They sold and rest was history
<Critter> 14Gnomon: it worked!  all others get an assist
<R|ker> GAMING SERVICES SUCK
<EliteTech> Panther, not unless you have unlimited plan!
<R|ker> DIRECT CONNECTIOSN ROCK
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<EliteTech> they do
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<WU-PagCow> its called
<WU-PagCow> QUAKEWORLD
<nofxsux> my god why would pay when you could get it for 
   FREE!!!!! maybe LLAMAS!!!!!
<WU-PagCow> wheety
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<WU-PagCow> =]
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<R|ker> Quhh
<R|ker> no
<EliteTech> QUAKEWORLD rules
<GeorgB3DR> I expect all gaming servies will be in trouble in 
   next year or so.  Free play is way to go with battle.net and 
   Quake etc
<Budreau> explain llamas
<R|ker> caps rock
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, ah... So you don't like Sporb?
<R|ker> they get teh point across
<GeorgB3DR> gn: i don't, but others do
<R|ker> i ahev spaceorb 360
<salem> George:  Do you mind if I call you Jorge?
<TE-Vorpal> Elite: it's still pissing yer money away, if you 
   have an ISP, why pay someone like TEN, too?
<WU-PagCow> fuck yeah eilete
<R|ker> it rocks with quake
<Slipgate> i gotta go......
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<TE-Vorpal> Elite: rE QW< yep
<EliteTech> George, do you all plan on having your own Free 
   alternative for game play like blizzard's Battle.net?
<BA-Cosmo> good get outa here slip
<EliteTech> or are you gonna leave it up to indendepent servers..
<nofxsux> Quakeworld is the way to go george...FREE!!!
<PantherX> Damn idiots keep blowing up dynamite down the road
<GeorgB3DR> elite:  we're looking at it as an option for future. 
    battle.net rules, and so does blizzard
<TE-Vorpal> later slip
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<WU-PagCow> free
<EliteTech> like DukeWorld
<WU-PagCow> quakeworld is so much better then quake
<WU-PagCow> you can acutally move
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<digsavior> george: will duke forever have cut scenes?
<WU-PagCow> and YOU CAn acutally KILL lpbs :)
<WU-PagCow> and deathmatch 3
<WU-PagCow> hehe
<EliteTech> blizzard kicked ass with Diablo and Warcraft 2
<GeorgB3DR> dig:  probably
<TE-Vorpal> PantherX: They're just playing redneck rampage...
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<nofxsux> yeah being able to move helps
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<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, what's your opinion on TCs, specifically 
   for Prey?
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<GeorgB3DR> gn: we love tc's...
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<Head> george: you think we'll see the major backbone providers 
   (mci, sprint, etc) offering some premium service that is 
   optimized/reserved for minimal latency specifically for games?
* PantherX sez 04Darkhorn06 is coming Summer 2197! http://www.elitegam
  es.com/bdp The biggest 01QUAKE06 yet.
<PantherX> heh heh shameless plug
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, hehe - good stuff  :)
<TE-Vorpal> erm
<Lillebror> Diablo was great. Far to small for a RPG though ... 
   that's why it's kinda dead nowadays i guess.
<salem> George:  Have you seen the Apocalypse addon for Quake?
<GeorgB3DR> head:  I think something has to happen, or online 
   gaming won't get any better than Quake
<EliteTech> TCs Rule
<GeorgB3DR> lag is just a killer
<salem> er, the page.
<Gnomon> TCs are amazing.
<EliteTech> Lillebror, yea should have been a longer game
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<BA-Cosmo> 3,7p7,3r3,7e7,3t3,7t7,3y3,7 7,3c3,7o7,3l3,7o7,3r3,7s7,3.3,7.7,3.3,7 7,3c3,7o7,3l3,7o7,3r3,7s7,3 3,7a7,3r3,7e7,3 3,7f7,3u3,7n7,3 3,7t7,3o3,7 7,3l3,7o7,3o3,7k7,3 3,7a7,3t3,7 7,3e3,7x7,3c3,7e7,3p3,7t7,3 
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<Vincey> ARGH!
<Gnomon> AAIIEE!
<PantherX> YUK!
<Vincey> colors suck
<The_Corn> um... ack
<digsavior> I'm blind
<TE-Vorpal> kill him!
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<salem> k/b
<PantherX> yay
<GeorgB3DR> headache's back again
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<Budreau> down with colors
<Head> i guess the enduser just has to get low latency/high 
   bandwidth pipes...
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<R|ker> color translation: pretty colors... colors are fun to 
   look at except when you cant see colors then you just s
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<Zaphod-> ahahah
<WU-GFK> WTF
<WU-GFK> !op
<EliteTech> ahh
<Vincey> dammit why did mIRC have to have colors? suck
<salem> haha!
<WU-GFK> !op
<BA-Cosmo> :)
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<Del> GeorgB3DR : It has been said that Prey would support 
   multi-player/internet gaming in not before seen, or at least 
   spectacular ways....Will this still be likely ? And if yes, 
   in what special way ?
<EliteTech> colors suck
<R|ker> Whats an EFnet server that dont require hostanme to 
   resolve?
<TE-Vorpal> PureEvil!
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, ever tried asparin?  :)
<Lillebror> EliteTech : Yup. One city and one dungeon in a RPG 
   is WAY to small. I beat the game fair and square in 2 days. 
   When's Diablo 2 due ?
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<GeorgB3DR> del: we're starting work on all that now.  news later
<WU-GFK> !whois BA-Cosmo
<EliteTech> Lillebror, dunno They are working onStarcraft and 
   Warcraft Adventures
<Head> george: what technology (isdn, adsl, cable modems, etc) 
   would you bet on as being the dominant successor to analog 
   modems?
<Lillebror> ok
<evilCoRNo> Ultima 9 better be awesome cuz im not paying $20 a 
   month for Ultima Online
<GeorgB3DR> head:  really dunno, probably what you mentioned 
   above.
<Vincey> Head: 2400 baud analog modems are the future!
<TE-Vorpal> HEad: Telepathy, definitely
<PantherX> I'm thinking cable modems will be the thang.
<SHiPPY> Head: adsl prolly
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, in Prey, would the server be able to 
   "create a level around the players", i.e. build (not modify) 
   as they play?
* John_Galt loves his ISDN
<EliteTech> Cable modems are decent
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  no, unless you want square, boring levels
* evilCoRNo will be ISDN in a 2 weeks!
<Lord> penis
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<evilCoRNo> wow... grammar
* Head loves his T3 during the school year :)
* TE-Vorpal averts his gaze from the spectical of John_Galt 
  loving his ISDN
* Vincey pisses on John Galt's head AND his ISDN
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, ok.
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<PantherX> ISDN is ghey....I'm wating for cable modems
* EliteTech Loves his T1 at work
<Del> GeorgB3DR : The reason I ask for the special internet 
   support, is that I am still looking forward to joining a 
   server, being in a level then and talking to everyone in 3D 
   model-person before actually joining a level annd DMing ! 
   Just wanted to have that said
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, what are the real limits of the Prey 
   engine?
* John_Galt ISDN sparks as the urien hits it...
<QwertMan2> Penis?
<The_Brain> !nforkpasswd Nigel
<The_Brain> !nshowpasswd Nigel
<GLOCK> Idiots
<NetGuy> PureEvil !mailpasswd Nigel
<Budreau> I have a lowly 33.6. It will do the job, but not as 
   great as ISDN.
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  the limits of any 3D engine are simply frame 
   rate 
<The_Brain> -PureEvil- Nigel is not a user
<The_Brain> ha
<Lord> qwertylicious
<The_Brain> !nwhois nigel
<Gnomon> Budreau, get three or four and channel-bond 'em
<NetGuy> argh
<GeorgB3DR> you can do what you can do, until it drops below 25 
   fps ;) then you start hacking
<NetGuy> -PureEvil- Userlevel too low  :(
<Head> del: carmack mentioned the possibility of hacking in 
   voice support for LAN / t1-t3 connects in Quake2
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: do you play multiplayer Quake?
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<Nigel> God I hate this bot.
<Budreau> Memphis can do that
<The_Brain> !nforkpass nigel
<Nigel> I'm going to kill it.
<NetGuy> lol
<GeorgB3DR> shippy:  not any more.  just too busy
<The_Brain> pueevil !nforkpass nigel
<The_Brain> pureevil !nforkpass nigel
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, point taken, but are there any intrinsic 
   limits to level editing, i.e. a number of lightfaces on a 
   surface, a number of potentially visible portals, etc?
* Nigel stabs the bastardly bot until the colors go away.
* evilCoRNo is away (P:OFF)> movie: Scream <(L:ON)
<Del> Head : I know, but that is not really what I was referring 
   to !
<Lillebror> GeorgB3DR: Agree on you with the framerate . We need 
   to move on from 30 fps (bah) and up to 75+ synched with 
   refresh to get a REAL feeling of "beeing there" i think.
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<Lord> qwertylicious
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: would you rather be a gamer, or a creator, 
   let's say both jobs get payed equally...
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  yes, there are arbitrary limits to everyting in 
   the engine.
<The_Brain> !whoami
<Vincey> creator.
<Bunso> the human eye sure as hell can't percept 75 fps :\
<The_Brain> pureevil !nshowpasswd nigel
<GeorgB3DR> lill:  the next generation 3D cards will do 
   that...we can probably move from 30FPS to 70 and maintain.  
   Of course, developers alwasy like to piss away extra speed on 
   new effects, 
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, ok.
<The_Brain> !nuserdel nigel
<GeorgB3DR> shippy:  gamer obviously.  if pay was same, I'd like 
   to be a bum ;)
<Gnomon> Bunso, yes it can - the brain just can't process it  :)
<The_Brain> !nuseradd nigel 125
<Budreau> How about a game that will exit all outside programs, 
   except what was specified, for faster play (may already 
   exist, I am just dumb :) )
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<Bunso> gnomon-> ok then :D
<The_Brain> !userwrite
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, yeah  :)   New effects are fun
<GeorgB3DR> you can drop the mr ya know ;)
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<Bunso> remember,  the hand is faster than the eye <G>
<Lillebror> GeorgB3DR : Yup , cant wait for when the hardware 
   actually catch up and surpasses the games. Unlike today.
<Bunso> and so will out game engines get
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<Bunso> lillebror-> the hardware does surpass the games, it's 
   just that that kindof hardware cost WAY too much :\
<PantherX> One day someone will be tinkering and discover....if 
  you do this you get 5,000 mHZ, no heat!
<Dark_Hele> hello?
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<Gnomon> George, hell - I dunno, I was raised to polite  :)
<Lord> qwertylicious
* TE-Vorpal tosses the "Volleyball of Eternal Shame" to Baron
<BA-Cosmo> damnit anyone know were lord somers other page is :/
* eRaD pisses all over his condemned ISP
<Zaphod-> hehe Dark Helmet
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<PantherX> brb
<John_Galt> hhaha
<Vincey> man
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<Gnomon> PnatherX, and on that day we'll have cold fusion.
<GeorgB3DR> lill:  I think no matter how fast hardware gets, 
   it'll always be 35 fps.  you will always add more polygons to 
   characters, or better lighting etc, to bring the negin back 
   down to "acceptable" rates
<Vincey> GLQuake on a 3Dfx obsidian rocks so much
<Lillebror> Bunso : The brain/eyes is capable of somewhere 
   around 60 hz update. Then we have the issues of flickering 
   updates and other artifacts that occur when fps and screen hz 
   is out of synch ... a "lock" on 75 would be great and give us 
   a very stable view.
<Del> GeorgB3DR : Another topic of interest would be the choice 
   of character in Prey and Duke4 ! Will 3DR keep sticking to 
   numerous characters with the exact same looks (just different 
   colors) running around shooting at one another ?
<Gnomon> PantherX, and the Men in Black will take it back  :)
<Budreau> God, I hate "The Honeymooners"
* evilCoRNo is back... 1 doh... no movie 2���m�!�1(4'01)(40'1)
* Vincey wonders how many people see that
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<SHiPPY> panther, what are you talking they prolly already have 
   that stuff, but company's wanna leak the money out of us
<Dark_Hele> how much do obsidians run?
* Vincey doesn't have an obsidian nor has he seen glquake on 
  it.. i just wanna see the reaction
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<Vincey> Dark_Hele: about $900
<Gnomon> George, will text-to-speech even be considered for Prey?
<salem> George:  What do you think look to be the coolest Quake 
   engine games? (besides DNF)
<GeorgB3DR> del: No, I wanna move to where you can select DM 
   chars to be.  Sick of seeing red, blue, green guys.  count on 
   it in Prey and Duke Forever
<Beavis_69> Dark: +$900
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<GeorgB3DR> gn:  probably not
<TE-Vorpal> I can do Cold FUsion in my Fridge right now... you 
   don't want to know how, trust me
<Vincey> Hexen 2 Hexen 2 Hexen 2
<WU-PagCow> Away! [ din din i think ] (Logging/Off) (Pager/On)
<Gnomon> George, awww...  :)
<Dark_Hele> ack
<Gnomon> TE-Vorpal, hehe  :)
<Lillebror> GeorgB3DR: I just hope that developers include 
   options and configurability so that those that want creamy 
   smooth updates (ala Sega Rally and so on) can get it ... 
   GLQuake and constant 75 fps for instance would prolly be a 
   real experience ! ;)
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<GeorgB3DR> salem:  I think Quake 2 will be the winner of the 
   immediate quake games, then Duke Forever.  I wouldn't want to 
   be Daikatana, Sin, Hexen 2 going against Q2
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: wow, picking dm characters, you mean look, 
   or 'abilities/weapons/skillz'?
<Mach5> yo!
<Mach5> wazzup ppl
<Vincey> the human eye can't tell 40fps from 100fps.. so what's 
   the point?
<GeorgB3DR> lill:  sure, the time is coming on pc's where you'll 
   get ridge racer on your pc
<Lillebror> Vincey : Sure it can.
<evilCoRNo> i get GLquake to run at a constant 54 fps... its 
   unbelievable
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<GeorgB3DR> shippy:  i think it's time to consider all of that.  
   3D games are getting stale, no?
<Mach5> !+v
<salem> George:  What's your call between DaiK, sin and Hexen2?  
   I would think Hexen 2 would do the best considering its 
   already large fan base.
<Lillebror> GeorgB3DR : I cant wait ;) 
<Del> GeorgB3DR : That is a word ! My compliments on the 
   multiple DM characters decision...One more advice, though ! 
   Support COOP ! Give a number of characters for choice there 
   as well ! Please !
<GeorgB3DR> salem: Dunno, I think that's a draw from the three
<Gnomon> George, would it be possible to write an add-on engine 
   for Prey that custom-designs levels as you play?
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<evilCoRNo> salem: theres a BIG difference between the games 
   that "do good" and games that "are good"
<GeorgB3DR> gn: I dunno, all things are possible given time and 
   dedication
<Vincey> Lillebror: Not really.. if you had no idea of the 
   framerate, and looked at a machine running a game at 40fps, 
   and one at 70, the difference would be unnoticible, and if it 
   was noticeable it would be pointless
<salem> George: Do you think Romero's over doing it a bit with 
   the 64 enemies, 30+ weapons in Daikatana?
<Lillebror> Vincey : Ever tried having 40 hz refresh on your 
   monitor ?
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: very...i mean..we need some variety in dm, 
   not just 'shoot the guy with the gun', we should concentrate 
   on the way it's played
<Gnomon> Yeah - Soda crackers rock!
<Vincey> Lillebror: yes
<Gnomon> Mr. Broussard, cool!
<Lillebror> Vincey : And ? 
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  yes, I don't see how that much stuff can be 
   created and balanced and still make this year.  But what do I 
   knwo? ;)
<TE-Vorpal> CoRNo; No shit, heheh, Rebel Assault "did good" I 
   think we know about the other part....
<digsavior> george: What kind of "look" can we expect on the 
   console...also will Duke Forever retain all of the 
   custimazation of quake?
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<Vincey> Lillebror: blah :)
<Lillebror> Vincey : You have to see that a image at 40 hz is 
   VERY unstable.
<Head> george: how much will portal tech be utilized in prey to 
   generate "unrealistic" settings, such as "impossibly" 
   expanding rooms, etc? and how do u intend to use the dynamics 
   of portal tech for "realistic" settings, beyond what can be 
   accomplished with brushes/entities, etc?
<salem> Gnomy:  How come you never call me Mr. salem?
<digsavior> shippy: I like the shoot the guy with the gun games 
   :)
<evilCoRNo> vorp: yeah... Myst "did great" ;)
<Gnomon> George, are there any plans for weapons more inventive 
   than just a different way to do damage?
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<Vincey> Lillebror: that is different however
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<Gnomon> salem, because that ain't your real name  :)
<TE-Vorpal> hehe
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<`eNtiTy> Head: That's a mouthful!
<GeorgB3DR> dig:  Duke Forever will do EVERYTHING Quake 2 does 
   tech wise, plus all our great gameplay stuff in the Duke world
<Tanus> Hola.
<salem> Ooh.
<Mach5> 'you've got mail!!"
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<SHiPPY> digsavior: hehehe..me too. :) but i'd like to see some 
   'gun dude' go head to head with some rogue or technician heeh
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  sure, looka the shrink ray in Duke 3D...
<Head> ya, took a while to write... just always curious about 
   the next 3d tech
<Bunso> argh, i hate spam mail :(
<GeorgB3DR> there;s lot's more to do
<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: What's the plot behind d4ever?
<Dark_Hele> Do you have any plans to license Trinity once that's 
   out?
<Lillebror> Vincey : Well ... since the screen cant be updated 
   with more FPS than the HZ of your monitor it really does 
   matter ... people that say 30 or 40 is the limit haven't seen 
   "House Of The Dead" on arcade. ;)
<WU-PagCow> I have Returned.
<WU-PagCow> J00 M|_|5T b0\/\/ bo\/\/ D0\/\/ |\|
<TE-Vorpal> Squirrels! Games need more Squirrels!
<GeorgB3DR> vincey:  not talking too much about it all yet, but 
   it's set in and around Las Vegas ;)
* TE-Vorpal takes his medicine
* Nigel �Set �Away� at 23:32:47 Saturday 05/07/97�
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<GeorgB3DR> dark:  We'll see when we get ther
<Gnomon> George, hmm... Good point... But how about weapons that 
   are also useful in non-combat situations?
<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: hope it's better than Duke's "They came to 
   take our chicks"
<digsavior> shippy: more game play to me would to be albe to 
   hold a gun to someones head and watch them pray before you 
   pull the trigger
<Dark_Hele> :)
<Vincey> VIVA LAS VEGAS!
<Vincey> erm
<Vincey> sorry
<Bunso> yah,  it's about time we get a story!
<GeorgB3DR> vincey:  most people liked that thjough :)  but yes, 
   there will be a little more "pot" but Duke Forever is an 
   action game still
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<Vincey> more pot?
<Del> GeorgB3DR : I want to ask a 2nd time ? Will you be 
   supporting COOP in the same manner as DM and SINGLE-player 
   ????
<SHiPPY> digsavior: then you can hear the screams of your 
   oppenents in virtual pain, as there brains are splatted all 
   over you, in virtual grossness!
<Vincey> Cool!
<Vincey> :)
<Tanus> although the taking the chicks thing was pretty 
   personal.  I can see going into outer space to kick someone's 
   ass after they stole EVERY chick in the world.  
* TE-Vorpal releases the Dark Squirrel of Incontinence
<Head> story?! STORY?! I just like to blow things up! :)
<GeorgB3DR> del:  sure, co-op is important
<Lillebror> digsavior : You dont need computer games. You need 
   psychiatric attention. 8)
<digsavior> You should involve Pamela Lee in the plot somehow :)
<`eNtiTy> YEAH!
<GeorgB3DR> head:  agree, and so does Duke.
<Tanus> more pot?
<Head> tanus: yea, rosy palm and her five sisters jsut don't 
   suffice
<Dark_Hele> You guys have a great sense of humor, "man with 
   drowned cat have wet pussy."
<digsavior> shippy: Now we're talking gameplay!
<Vincey> Duke is driving thru the desert looking for chicks and 
   is abducted by aliens
<Tanus> BOOHAHHAH!!  LOL!!!
<Dark_Hele> hehe
<digsavior> lill: i went to a shrink once and now look at me
<MAD-DOG> George: What do you think about modem-modem play?  You 
   agree with ID not to support it?  Will DNF and Prey support 
   it?
<SHiPPY> GeorgB3DR: you think their will be prey/duke4ever 
   'clans'? And are you going to play around with a qspy type 
   program to 'query' all duke servers?
<Budreau> We need more games like Capture the Flag or Team 
   Fortress. Co-op and Deathmatch combined.
<Lillebror> Cream of Sum Young Guy to ...
* TE-Vorpal has the Cloning rights to Pamela Lee (BOW to me, ye 
  unworthy)
<`eNtiTy> I say we get rid of the whole Aliens thing.
<Mach5> ack
<Lillebror> digsavior : ;)
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<Gnomon> George, any thoughts for using the Prey engine in 
   anything other than a game?
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<GeorgB3DR> mad:  No, I think Quake 2 needs it (at any cost), 
   but I'm not id
<Del> GeorgB3DR : I almost had some doubts at your priorities 
   for Duke4, but I am looking forward to it some more now
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<Mach5> Win95 is chewing up my HDD
<Tanus> Tell me you aren't gonna do the TEN thing again.  
<Mach5> eek
<GeorgB3DR> shippy:  Sure there will be Duke Forever clans
<Del> ...and to Prey, of course
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  not from us
<Bunso> I just hope to see something like those two gay las 
   vegas folks (whom i don't remember the name of at the moment) 
   get eaton by their white tiger
<Isolation> If anyone here is a texture artist msg me por favor 
   :)
<Tanus> they'll be named stuff like  "WE got our chiocks back, 
   dammit."
<Gnomon> George, hmm...
<salem> George: Will DNF have the same sort of gibs and stuff 
   like in Quake, and will there be some new gore type stuff?
<jell0> sigfreid and roy!
<jell0> they need to be the final bosses!
<PantherX> Duke3d had awesome gibs
<GeorgB3DR> salem:  We'll do lot's of new stuff beyond Quake 2
<Vincey> polygonized flying eyes
<Vincey> w00!
<Gnomon> George, file-size wise, what's the general size for 
   Prey levels (minus the textures)
<Gnomon> ?
<Dark_Hele> I hope they make Blood Forever
<TE-Vorpal> Bunso: Sigfreid and Roy; c'mon, man you were just 
   hanging with them last night.... oh no.. .that was Michael 
   Jackson....
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  no idea, that's too specific
<Bunso> ah , siegfried and roy were theire names yes :)   i want 
   to see them die!
<Dark_Hele> w00d...
<eRaD> I like the flying eyeball in DN3D
<Tanus> beyond quake 2?  Ahh... I hat to be impolite but... no.
<Vincey> blood was lame imho
<GeorgB3DR> Siegfried and Boy! ;)
<Tanus> Blood sucked.
<PantherX> Blood was by Monolith, not 3DR
<Head> george: for prey (or any other title), has 3dr considered 
   implementing *both* client-server (for internet) and 
   peer-peer (for modem-modem) models to facilitate both types 
   of play?
<Budreau> I agree with Vincy
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<MultiSync> [USteppin] Trippin' again UStep? Ya fucking f00!
<WU-GFK> GeorgB3DR: do you know if the general size of the maps 
   for Prey will be bigger/smaller than BSPs?
<Dark_Hele> fine, then Shadow Warrior Forever!!!
<Avro> how many monsters are going to be in PREY and DNF?
<Vincey> a friend of mine made a huge ass eyeball in 3DStudio 
   that looked like the one in DN3D.. it rocked
<Gnomon> George, hmm. Ok... How about "how large is one 
   rectangle in bytes"?
<Dark_Hele> how about it George?
* evilCoRNo is away (P:OFF)> movie <(L:ON)
<Bunso> george-> u should have a secret level at their mansion 
   where u fight of endangered animals and gay people trying to 
   kiss and assrape duke :D
<GeorgB3DR> head:  Yes, and that's what I think Quake 2 should 
   do.  A different system just for modem
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<Mach5> aahahaha Bunso
<TE-Vorpal> Bunso: yer just a little sick. Not a criticism. An 
   observation. :]
<Tanus> Modem-modem is doable through Dial Up Networking.
<digsavior> heh
<Del> GeorgB3DR : Something I have to mention ! What players 
   missed the most in Quake were the huge masses of monsters 
   they could fight in Doom ! Do you think you may find a way to 
   get more than a few monsters running around, at least with 
   the PORTAL engine ?
<Bunso> I'm more than a little sick <G>
<Head> george: whoah! u actually expect Cash to write *network* 
   code, which is what he was hired to do!? :)
<EliteTech> yea you need the PLUS pack or OSR2
<Mach5> i gots Plus
<Mach5> wewp!
<Dark_Hele> modem-modem is lame when using client, server tech...
<Budreau> Quake had harder monsters in smaller packs
<Avro> how many monsters are going to be in PREY and DNF? in 
   DN3d there were so few monsters
<Gnomon> George, how flexible is the Prey programming language?
<digsavior> del: I missed the weapon balance and the satanic 
   refrences
<GeorgB3DR> del: maybe, we'll see
<Mach5> came with my sucky computer, its the least the could do
<EliteTech> well it works
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<PantherX> We want easily gibbed ones that come in 6 packs
<Avro> how many monsters are going to be in PREY and DNF? in 
   DN3d there were so few monsters
<Vincey> i like the idea of having monsters in "teams" with one 
   as a leader giving out orders.. or having monsters with low 
   health run and get some friends to come kick your ass
<Tanus> no -DL the ISDN accelerator pack from MS and it does the 
   same stuff.
* TE-Vorpal starts passing out "Greasy slaps"
<Budreau> Doom was popular becuase of the giant leap from Wolf3D 
   to Doom imho.
<Tanus> as dun.
<Dark_Hele> George:  Any plans for a Shadow Warrior Sequel yet?
<Dark_Hele> :)
<GeorgB3DR> avro:  dunno yet, as many as other games, but not 64 
   ;)
<Vincey> Doom was fun as hell
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<`eNtiTy> Shouldn't retail SW come out first? :)
<Bunso> btw george,  you should have some plug in duke4ever to 
   the movie "God of gamblers"
<Dark_Hele> NO!
<Dark_Hele> :)
<GeorgB3DR> dark:  We're doing Duke Forever and Prey next.  
   nothing else
<Budreau> Because we were used to Wolf3d as a 3-d game.
<Dark_Hele> it's good to plan ahead.. :)
<digsavior> george: Is the AI in Duke4ever going to move towards 
   the monsters acting like humans in a deathmatch or are they 
   going to have their own "monster personalities"?
<Head> budreau: yea, and quake added "true" 3d to the active 
   gamer, but doom did such a good job with 2.5d, a lot of 
   casual gamers didn't notice
<Vincey> Shadow Warrior 2 - Son of Lo Wang, Hung Lo comes to 
   avenge his grandfather Chop Sui
<Del> Budreau : Alas you are wrong ! Quake does not even have 
   any harder monsters ! Name one Quake monster that is tougher 
   than the Cyber-demon, spider-demon or arch-vile !!!
<GeorgB3DR> dig:  we'll do what we can
<Mach5> shouting out baby im ready to go
<Head> not the "giant" leap
<eRaD> lol
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<RobBrown> greets
<Tanus> how far into production of Prey are U, george?
<Beavis_69> Del: Shambler
<Bunso> hey robbrown
<Gnomon> George, can the Prey programming language interact with 
   other, external programs?
<EliteTech> Hi Rob
* Mach5 is standing on a rooftop shouting out "baby im ready to 
  go"
<Budreau> You are naming bosses, do you think an imp is harder 
   than an ogre?
<Vincey> the shambler was just powerful
<Vincey> dumb as a brick tho
<GeorgB3DR> tanus:  Engine is 90%.  Ready to start making real 
   content like chars, maps and guns
<TE-Vorpal> Beavis: CLose, only close.
<Gnomon> Shambler + axr = FUN  :)
<Gnomon> axe
<BA-Cosmo> fiends kicked ass
<GeorgB3DR> Prey is launching into full production now, leaving 
   r&d phase
<`eNtiTy> I hate those motherfuckers!
<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: BTW, that monster in the prey AVI was dumb 
   looking imho
<Mach5> Gnome, nononono shambler + quad axe = FUN :D
<digsavior> When will we be able to screw the pod women?
<Gnomon> Excellent.
<Budreau> Three fiends can kill you, 10 demons and no problem.
<GeorgB3DR> gn: no more specifics.  still a ways off.  when done 
   will do at least what quake does and probably more
<Gnomon> Mach5, yeah... But I like surviving kamikaze runs.
<Tanus> George:  I thought the content was done and the engine 
   needed work or something to that effect?  Content hasn't 
   started???
<Vincey> dunno what was bad about it
<Mach5> aahah
<GeorgB3DR> vincey:  I agree 100%.  It was a temporary test.  
   not FINAL in any way
<Head> george: scarboro have anything "killer" he wants to add 
   to the prey engine still?
<Del> Budreau : No ! But Doom had a lot more monsters (at least 
   part 2) concerning their diversity ! And the bosses have not 
   been bosses anymore in Doom 2 !!!!
<GeorgB3DR> was just a fast 700 polygon test
<Gnomon> George, cool.
* TE-Vorpal takes a bead on dig with his "Particle beam of 
  Accusation"
<Beavis_69> Mach5: have you ever tried a fully automatic 
   double-barrel shotgun in a deathmatch?
<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: thank god :)
<PantherX> That would rock
<GeorgB3DR> head:  I'm sure he'll do some more things. 
<digsavior> vorpal: what are you accusing me of?
<Vincey> had a head that looked like a duck or something
<Tanus> George:  I thought the content was done and the engine 
   needed work or something to that effect?  Content hasn't 
   started???
<GeorgB3DR> yup, it was bad
<MAD-DOG> George: How far along was the original Prey when you 
   scratched it?  Why not release it as Prey 1, and then the new 
   Prey would be Prey 2?
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<GeorgB3DR> tanus:  Engine/ tools first, then game starts
<Budreau> Del: I agree with that.
<Head> just curious... is anyone else considering buying that 
   doom music cd?
<Tanus> Ohh..... whatever.  
<Mach5> Beavis, i think once, it rocked, especially w/ quad :D
<TE-Vorpal> dig: I'm making random comments, Accusation was the 
   word that came up on my little "randomizer"
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<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: Give us some more Preditor screens... :)
<`eNtiTy> I would buy the DOOM CD if I could find it in stores.
<GeorgB3DR> mad:  Cause we decided to skip a generation of tech 
   and go hardware only
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<Beavis_69> Mach5: yep
<Gnomon> George, how 'bout you release the engine and the 
   editor, and then make the game while everyone else makes TCs? 
    <grin>  j/k
<Vlad|CTF> geez...  inferno is full of llamas
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<EliteTech> It's hard to find the DOOM CD around here..
<Beavis_69> anyone inyour path got mowed down...
<Tanus> This still is quake2 chat right?
<TE-Vorpal> Dig: the other one was "Disgust" did'nt apply any 
   better
<Tanus> ???
<Vincey> the Doom music kicked Quake's music's ass.
<MAD-DOG> George: but how far along was it?
<Vincey> Bobby Prince is my hero
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<Mach5> i have the Doom II CD!!!!!!!
<digsavior> gnomom: that's an idea!
<EliteTech> Vincey, Yea it does
<GeorgB3DR> mad:  dunno, engine 50%, game 0%
<salem> I'm looking at Bobby's page right now.
<Tanus> woops... gotta go.  
<Budreau> Del: But cyberdemons as hard as shamblers. And there 
   are many more shamblers. All the monsters in Quake were tough 
   to kill when in groups.
<GeorgB3DR> bobby's a great guy
<Gnomon> digsavior, hehe  :)
<Tanus> NICE TALKING GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<Beavis_69> faster than a virgin on prom night...
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<Mach5> on offence Geogre, but Duke3d music sucked big time
<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: He doing the sound/music to prey? (I'll give 
   you a hummer if you say yes ;)
<bwernAWAY> LOL
<Budreau> I agree that doom music was better than Quakes!
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<salem> Damn, Bobby's page has a lotta hits.
<Vincey> salem: 'cause he kicks ass
<GeorgB3DR> mach:  none taken, but lot's disagree ;)
<Vincey> and he actually replies to mail sent by us peons
-> *bwernicke* I got the majority 95% of this logged, very 
   interesting.
<salem> yeah, DOOM muzak ruled.
<Beavis_69> budreau: it's hard to say. I like the music from 
   both Quake and Doom
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  NO! ;)
<Del> Budreau : The shambler is not even half as tough as the 
   cyber-demon ! You needed dozens of rockets to kill the C-D ! 
   A shambler can be killed with a (relatively) short SN burst !
<Mach5> GeorgB3DR, :/
<Vincey> GeorgB3DR: Blah :) If i take back the hummer offer will 
   you say yes? :)
<TE-Vorpal> From NASA: "WOW, the little martian dude is givign 
   us the finger!"
<EliteTech> the Doom cd has some cool music
<Vlad|CTF> haha
<Gnomon> Del, I agree. Cyberdemon > Shambler
<Beavis_69> Del: try killing a shambler w/ a SN gun
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<Budreau> I wish the shareware Quake had at least some MIDI 
   files (internet version)
<EliteTech> hehe
<Beavis_69> w/ out
<salem> George:  Will DNF's.... "ambience" be sorta dark like 
   Quake, or more light hearted.
<Del> Budreau : Plus, the Doom monsters are even harder in 
   packs, since there are many more of them to be had !
<Vlad|CTF> a shamber takes a 3 second LG burst an hes gone
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<GeorgB3DR> salem:  won't know till we set the mood of the game 
   and start music
<Beavis_69> Correction! Del: try killing a shambler without a SN 
   gun
<Bunso> George-> u should get Barbara Streisand and Rod Stewart 
   to make a duet as the duke4ever theme song !    jk :D
<Gnomon> Yeah, that's something.
<Del> Beavis : What do you mean, 'try' ? I do that all the time !
<Gnomon> George, will Prey have support for exterior music 
   formats, i.e. MIDI etc?
<Budreau> Del: Which is harder. . . 10 demons or four fiends?
<GeorgB3DR> bunso:  Nah, maybe Daikatana ;)
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<Beavis_69> LG?
<GeorgB3DR> gn:  dunno
<Bunso> :G
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<GeorgB3DR> cya guys.  thanks for the feedback and chat....
<Gnomon> George, ah...
<PantherX> Later George.
<Gnomon> Cool. Later.
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<EliteTech> bye George
<bwernicke> Later
<Vincey> geo: BP must do the music
<Vincey> bah
<RobBrown> What about tits in DForever.....large and pert I 
   assume? ;)
<Gnomon> aaiiee!! high-ASCII!
<Vlad|CTF> poor guy has to come here for attention ;)
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<PantherX> Rob....you want the log I got?
<BA-Cosmo> ;=+
<Gnomon> Vlad|CTF,  ;)
<Vincey> ok so umm
<Lillebror> Anyone here with good insight in the 3d hardware 
   business ? When will we see the first consumer+ priced 
   100Mpixel, 3 Mpoly 3d accelerator incorporating a FULL 
   GEOMETRY ENGINE on the market ? I want one you see ... ;)
<Vlad|Drak> he's a nice guy...
<Vincey> can we go back to the porn now that georgy porgy is 
   gone?
<PantherX> Lille......maybe after we are all dead
<Mach5> haha
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<Vincey> Lillebror: 3Dfx Banshee :)
<Budreau> Whenever id asks for one.
<Del> Budreau : Unfortunately, you cannot really compare finds 
   with demons ! 
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