George Broussard on #Duke3D   Nov 15, 1996


Session Start: Fri Nov 15 05:13:01 1996
<RobBrown> George:Is there any other AI on the bots other than the one?
<GeorgB3DR> cool:  Hmmmm.  I forget.  Don;t think so, although a good addition
 for the future

<CoolUn> Did you add team features?
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  Not that I know of.  Ken just hacked it all in a long time
 ago.  We hardly even tested iot

<CoolUn> Did you add team features..... George?
<GeorgB3DR> cool:  No, Duke net technology was kinda locked in place.  When we
do a new Duke it'll have teams
<RobBrown> Coolun:There is a friendly fire option for co-op that was added
 though

<CoolUn> Waht do you mean new duke?
<GeorgB3DR> Cool;  Well, you know we are doing many more Duke 3D games?  I mean 
it's a given at this point.  We are already in r&d phase

<beastie> so you cant pick duke's shirt color :-(????
<GeorgB3DR> beastie:  Nope, next game

<GeorgB3DR> The Plut PAK is mainly a new mission, not a zillion new code 
features... yet...

<CoolUn> Are you gonna fix the flaws with Build.................?
<GeorgB3DR> cool:  build is easy to get around :)  Spring for the $20 for the 
Tagliaferri book from Sybex.  It rules
<CoolUn> I know how to work with Build......................
<GeorgB3DR> Just save often :)
<beastie> hehehehh
<CoolUn> Just when you work with the rulessss and the level has limitations.  
That then becomes the problem with build

<RobBrown> George:Tell us the system reqs for Shadow Warrior. Is it going to 
be P-60 16 megs?
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  Yes, SW=Pentium and 16 megs.  

<CoolUn> Anyways What about Shadow Warrior and Blood
<CoolUn> When are we gonna see some SW?
<GeorgB3DR> Shareware Shadow Warrior will be out in early 1997...and rule.  
Blood, dunno yet
<RobBrown> Coolun:Probably 1st quarter 97...or when it's totally cool. :)
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  Probably Jan or so, if we get a little lucky

<|vince|> George: any chance of a Qtest1 type think with Blood or SW?? just 
something to wet our appetites?
<GeorgB3DR> No, test versions suck.  Our shareware version is the test
******<RobBrown> George:Righteous!
<GeorgB3DR> We will have a 100% new shadow warrior page on the web site tomorrow.  
Lot's of new shots and more coming.
<[]Duke[]> AND I"M STILL LAGGED!!!!!!!!!!
<[]Duke[]> I HATE UNDERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<|vince|> George: yeah, but we need something to play!! :)
<[]Duke[]> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<|vince|> poor Duke
<GeorgB3DR> Vince:  Play Plutonium PAK :)
<RobBrown> What's this TCI/IP rumor about Blood? Can you say anything about it yet?
<|vince|> George: it's not out yet
<|vince|> i cannot find it anyway
<GeorgB3DR> Don't know if they will really get it.  They are 'toying' with it.
<CoolUn> What's the scoop on Prey.......................?
<GeorgB3DR> BTW, there is a cool new Plut PAK page on the web site.  Check it out
<|vince|> George: cool, thanx
<GeorgB3DR> Prey?  1998 and we'll start serious work on it soon.  The editor is 
being finished and the engine is 95%
<|vince|> George: have you seen this?? http://www2.gamelords.com/duke3d/bdp/
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  No, but heard about it.  wrote it down for later
<RobBrown> GT has 11/20 for Plutonium PAK all! You MUST get it!
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<GeorgB3DR> We are taking orders for the Plut PAK now.  We will ship as soon as GT 
get;'s cd's
<|vince|> George: oh, ok.. it sounds really cool
<RobBrown> That's only 6 more days!
<GeorgB3DR> What's your favorite Plut PAK level Rob?
<RobBrown> Honestly.....Shop-N-Bag
<GeorgB3DR> he he, that pisses Randy off to no end :)
<CoolUn> when are you gonna update your finger?
<GeorgB3DR> My 1st level ever...
<GeorgB3DR> About to get the finger under control.  we moved the web site and there 
was a probelm
<GeorgB3DR> I look forward to making more levels, especially for the next Duke and 
for Prey.
<RobBrown> It's a really good DukeMatch level against the bot too!
<|vince|> hmmm... the names sound cool
<|vince|> George: you made a level for the plutonium pak???? cool!
<CoolUn> Can the bot fly?
<GeorgB3DR> Vince:  Yup, we were running behind, so I got my ass in gear :)
<RobBrown> vince:It's a really good one too....A grocery store
<GeorgB3DR> Cool:  Don;t think so. Rob???
<CoolUn> and can the bot's be used with homebrewed maps made with 1.3 ?
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  Like the baby seal? :)  Last minute addition
<|vince|> cool!
<GeorgB3DR> Cool:  The bots can be used on any map that runs under 1.4, which is 
all of them
<RobBrown> Baby Seal?
<GeorgB3DR> In the meat market....
<GeorgB3DR> Next to the Dolphin :)
<RobBrown> Oh...that cracked me up first time I ran into that part...What a gag!
<CoolUn> <BEG> Tell em the Lava in the Prey pics SUX
<|vince|> George: are the bots really that smart, or are they like the early 
versions of Reaper for Quake? (nice to look at, show potential, but not very 
fun..)
<RobBrown> vince:They bots have a few weaknesses.
<GeorgB3DR> Any Prey shots out now, frankly suck shit.  They are old, old, old and 
all the art was a TEST
<GeorgB3DR> Trust me, nothing that crappy will be in the game
<|vince|> cool
<GeorgB3DR> The Prey page on the web is the next to be jetissoned and updated...
<|vince|> cool.. the Prey updates page hasn't been changed since like June i 
think..
<GeorgB3DR> As soon as William gets the editor done, there will be an explosion of 
Prey screen shots...
<GeorgB3DR> We're in limbo right now
<|vince|> Woo-HOO!!
<RobBrown> George:Have you played the Diablo demo? Is Apogee thinking of doing this 
type of game in the future? I can't wait for it to hit the shelves myself. Would 
anyone else here like to see Apogee do a Warcraft/C&C type game?
<GeorgB3DR> We're thinking about it.  With Shadow Warrior, Prey and a new Duke in 
house, we are busy :)  But we think we could do a cool Warcraft type game with 
lots of new catches.   Someday...
<|vince|> Diablo is awesome...
<CoolUn> is the new duke gonna be true3d?
<|vince|> heh
<GeorgB3DR> You could send out strippers to distract the enemy troops :)
<CoolUn> 6 degree's of freedom?
<GeorgB3DR> Cool: Dunno yet.  Might be a modified version of Build.  Just not sure 
yet
<RobBrown> George:Great idea!
<|vince|> 3d realms games are the funniest games.. i had to say that....
<RobBrown> Word up or George will leave! :)
<GeorgB3DR> Inside gags and some homur is where it's at.  Best way to get some 
coolness into a game
<|vince|> hmmm... dammit, i am faced with a dillema.. whether to buy Tomb Raider or 
the Plutonium PAK right now :/
<RobBrown> I agree George. I have seen a lot of people remarking on how "Unserious" 
Duke is....I think they plan don't get it
<CoolUn> get Tomb Raider
<GeorgB3DR> Pak :)  If you liked Duke, the PAK is twice as good as the original, 
but I;m biased
<RobBrown> Vince:Want me to help you with the choice? :)
<|vince|> Rob: haha yeah, i wonder what you'll say
<GeorgB3DR> Serious is good, but look at a kick ass movie like True Lies (funny as 
hell).  Or even Aliens.  Hudson cracked me up and made the film better
<|vince|> George: you have about the coolest job in the world...
<RobBrown> vince:I have seen Plutonium.....so I know what I'm saying when I say 
it's the best yet
<GeorgB3DR> Totally serious movie, but you got this whiner.  "4 more weeks and I 
was out man.  Now I'm gonna buy it on this rock" :)  he he
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  I have to agree there.  We get paid for puttin' naked chicks in 
games :)
<|vince|> hehe
<RobBrown> George:Would you say that you and Scott get alot of your creative ideas 
from Movies?
<|vince|> hehehehehehehe
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  Sure, you get influenced from everywhere...Movies are a great 
source.
<|vince|> i have sounds from Aliens... pretty cool...
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<RobBrown> So will the Blood team be going to Garland or are they going to wrap up 
in Kirkland?
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  Look at level 1 in the PAK.  All that storm stuff was throw in to 
make the game more real and less of a "game".
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  The Blood team will probably stay where they are. :(
<CoolUn> so if the SW of Blood or Shadow Warrior will be released in Early 97 when 
will we get the full version.?
<CoolUn> Late 97?
<GeorgB3DR> Towards the end, I'd welcome a wrap up "month"
<GeorgB3DR> Cool:  Dunno, usually within a couple of months
<GeorgB3DR> Cool:  no way.  March/latest for Shadow Warrior.  Maybe sooner....
<RobBrown> Has they been any discussion on how many levels will be in the shareware 
version of SW and how many in the registered version?
<CoolUn> Did you fix the order structuring when we order direct from Apogee
<GeorgB3DR> I think with Shadow Warrior we are going with a 4 level shareware with 
a real cliff hanger ending, and 28 levels total
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<CoolUn> Or will it be by the last name's like with Duke?
<CoolUn> where we can buy it first in the stores if our last name starts with a 'Z' 
?
<beastie> I have a friend who applied for the level designer position..... He took 
the time to make a great level and mail his resume to you guys.  Well, no one 
from 3DR even bothered to send him a reply.  I thought that was in poor taste.
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<GeorgB3DR> Uncomfortable silence.... :)
<tylercal> hi all
<RobBrown> That sounds great. I always have felt that most shareware versions offer 
way too much. 4 levels is plenty to know if you are going to buy it....would 
most everyone agree with that?
<|vince|> George: if you really wanted to, COULD you release a demo now?? 
<RobBrown> Hi tyler
<|vince|> of Shadow Warrior
<CoolUn> Is the net code fixed with 1.4 to where there aren't as many 
out-sync-error messages?
<tylercal> any one from calgary?
<GeorgB3DR> Fixed?  We will ship orders as soon as we get cd's.  Might be in some 
stores first, but we will combat that with a cheaper price from now on
<RobBrown> Yakima,WA tyler
<|vince|> george: ignore that last question.. it was stupid.. heres a decent one.. 
Are you a mouser or a keyboarder?
* RobBrown knows that answer
<GeorgB3DR> beastie:  We got 5000 or more level submissions.  :)  Kinda hard to 
reply to all.  Sorry about that
<|vince|> uh oh
<GeorgB3DR> Vince; We could do a 1 levels Shadow Warrior with EASE now.  Just not 
going to.
<|vince|> George is lagging
<GeorgB3DR> Cool:  Some work was done to the net/modem code.  Should be more solid 
now
<RobBrown> GeorgB3DR PING reply: 21 secs
<|vince|> doh! 
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  Kbder.  Only 3-4 mousers in the world have ever beaten me
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<beastie> Whatever
<Ulmo> hi everyone!
<tylercal> hi ulmo
<beastie> I'm a mouser
<Ulmo> it's so quiet tonight! am I lagged?
<beastie> I won the duke match tourney in Fort Worth!
<beastie> Mousers rule
<beastie> I'll beat you any day George :-)
<beastie> I've never been beaten by a keyboarder
<RobBrown> George:How do yuo do against the bots, or do you play against them much 
at all.
<|vince|> George: cool.. then i am not the only keyboarder who does not suck
<tylercal> a mouser? sound sick!!
<GeorgB3DR> um, i doubt it.  I beat down 10 would be assassins a week dude :)
<RobBrown> Take him George! :)
<beastie> When do you wanna play?
<beastie> I beat everyone else at 3DR when they showed up at the tourney!
<BEG> mousers suck
<Ulmo> you know what?
<Ulmo> the dudes at 3dr aren't too bright...
<RobBrown> Ulmo:Why would you say that?
<tylercal> any command and conquer players?
<Ulmo> no.. listen to this
<GeorgB3DR> he he what tourney?  The one in Fort Worth?  Not a good Duke player 
there.   We all stayed here :)
<Ulmo> ya know in the 4th level, first episode?
<BEG> Tylercal only the Demo :(
<beastie> Joe Siegler, Allen Blum, Doug Wood, Brett Young were some of your guys 
that i romped on
<Ulmo> toxic dump
<tylercal> oh can you rent in your area?
<|vince|> hmmm
<RobBrown> Ulmo:Yeah
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<beastie> with a mouse......
<GeorgB3DR> Beastie:  Sorry, they all suck :)
<Ulmo> well...
<GeorgB3DR> I beat them all sooooo badly.  Doug I beat like 20 to -3 on Hollywood 
etc...
<beastie> check out the page  www.cyberrodeo.com/duke/photos.htm
<|vince|> i suppose i should update my webpage
<MD_DOC> hey how do you play duke over the net?
<beastie> They suck :-)
<tylercal> BEG?
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<Ulmo> have you ever been to that room where it says "how did you get here?"?
<RobBrown> MD_DOC:TEN or Kali
<MD_DOC> I am having problems
<MD_DOC> please help
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<RobBrown> Ulmo:I don't remeber that room in particualr
<|vince|> School screws everything up.. :(
<beastie> george: I'll call you long distance so I can school you :-)
<MD_DOC> it says something about not being able to find IPX and network BIOS
<MD_DOC> please help
<RobBrown> vince:It's SO nice to live on the West Coast. :)
<|vince|> rob: heh, i know, but still school screws everything up
<Ulmo> well you fly up to where a shooter is and you open the wall and there's a 
little room where it says that
<Ulmo> it implies that you are cheating (there are no jetpacks in the level)
<RobBrown> vince:School? Yeah...I'm working on one. :)
<Ulmo> I've found a way to get there without cheating
<GeorgB3DR> Am I lagged still?
<beastie> I'll record it for everyone too
<MD_DOC> just oave the net  me being the server or joining another server
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<RobBrown> Ulmo:Cool! :)
<MD_DOC> oave = over
<Skullfry> hi people
<RobBrown> Hi Skull
<Ulmo> anyone wanna leetch off my ftp?
<MD_DOC> please help
<RobBrown> The IRC network has been bad today
<Skullfry> any word on 3d-Realm releasing any demos?
<RobBrown> GeorgB3DR PING reply: 48 secs
<|vince|> Undernet is screwed all the time... DALnet is the most unlagged, but 
there is no body there
<RobBrown> MD:What are you doing? Connecting thru TEN? KalI?
<MD_DOC> never I got it my self
<|vince|> hmmm
<Skullfry> any word on 3d-Realm releasing any demos?
<|vince|> i never have good questions to ask.... bah
<MD_DOC> no just over the net my puter being the server
<MD_DOC> I have it
<Skullfry> vince do you play on Kali?
<RobBrown> Skull:Tey release shareware versions.....that's their policy
<|vince|> skull: nopers// i am cursed with a 14.4
* CoolUn gives beastie an ice cold frosty alcoholic beverage!
<GeorgB3DR> later all....
<RobBrown> MD:Never tried playing Duke that way...I don't think it's made to do 
that
<beastie> thanks cool
<MD_DOC> I think brb and when I am does anyonw want to play with me?
<MD_DOC> brb
<MD_DOC> so think about it
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<Skullfry> Vince!!! Upgrade!
* CoolUn gives beastie an ice cold frosty alcoholic beverage!
<RobBrown> See ya George
<beastie> don't wanna play George?
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<|vince|> George: later dude
<Skullfry> Its better then TEN
<Skullfry> Its better then TEN
<GeorgB3DR> beastie:  Got work to do.  Don't worry, I'll be kicking your butt soon 
enough.  Let the thought of that keep you up at night
<Skullfry> Tens a ripe off