George Broussard on #Duke3D     11-29-96

Log made by Rob Brown

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Session Start: Sat Nov 30 05:02:20 1996
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<RobBrown> Hi all
<[vince]> heya Rob
<MtlHead> Howdy Rob, long time no see!
<GeorgB3DR> efx:  nope...I did 95% of Shop-n-Bag in the Plut PAK though
<Grendel_P> Rob--Hi
<EFX> george: woo cool .. I love that level!
-> Ops on #duke3d: [RáÞTûRÈ] I got on quick huh? :)
<RobBrown> Hi Grendel
<GeorgB3DR> Grendel:  Something they are over-hyping.. :)  Just voxelized sprites. 
 Look really cool though.  Already in Shadwo Warrior too
<[vince]> :)
<RobBrown> Whad I miss? ;)
<Grendel_P> George--Voxelized???  Like that Voxel Space junk NovaLogic uses?
<GeorgB3DR> nada...
<chains> cool
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<MtlHead> George, the game starts to slow down to a grinding halt around the 3rd 
or 4th level...the hard drive starts hammering like it's gonna blow up, many 
people I have talked to have had this happen
<chains> doom/quake are way too sluggish
<GeorgB3DR> Grendel: Yes, but it looks great for small items like guns etc.  
Probabyl better than polygons.  Things appear ROUND
<MtlHead> Sounds like the infinite enemy problem mentioned on the #DR page.
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  damn...we never had that.  run smartdrive, or don't run it, as 
the case might be
<Grendel_P> Oh, so the enemies have a depth to them....  I get it.  Thanx.  That 
was bugging me to no end.
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  If you get it nailed down, email me asap
<GeorgB3DR> grendel:  Not the enemies, just the items/weapons
<[vince]> i don't have that problem.. hmm
<MtlHead> OKie.....a bunch of us are trying to figure it out.....
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<Grendel_P> Oh.  Why not the enemies?  Too much animation?
<GeorgB3DR> gren:  too slow
<[vince]> altho it was slow as hell on my friends P133.. strangeness
<chains> george: LEvelord leave before Plut pak?
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<RobBrown> George:Would save games be helpful if people sent you games that were 
saved when this happened?
<GeorgB3DR> chains; he left at the very start.  first 2 weeks or so.
<GeorgB3DR> rob:  Might be....we'll see how widespread it is...
<chains> george: or did he work on some of the levels?
<LeChuck> Hey Rob.
<LeChuck> Hehehe, if D_Nukem didn't have that 8:30 bedtime or whatever, he might 
be here to talk to George :)
<RobBrown> Hi LeChuck
<Grendel_P> I get it.  Also, about Shadow Warrior...are the Pentium system 
requirements a requirement?  Or is it more like a suggestion like the 486/66 
thing for Duke?
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<GeorgB3DR> chains:  He did pieces of 3 of the levels.  2 were redone 95% and one 
was maybe 50%.
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<chains> george: I have heard you will work on 1 more game with build, only with 
polygon characters, is this true?
<GeorgB3DR> grendel:  requirement.  it'll run on a 486...at 5 fps or something.  
don't even try it
<[vince]> hahahaha
<GeorgB3DR> chains:  All up in the air right now.  We are evaluating things
<[vince]> 5 fps... that would SUCK
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<EFX> george: Any idea when a shareware version of shadow warrior will be out?
<Grendel_P> Dammit.  My dad refuses to upgrade our scruddy PC...says its fast 
enough for "his needs."  That sux.  
* HorsePuck ponders.... 'who in gods name is GeorgB3DR' <g>
<GeorgB3DR> efx:  when it's done.  don't expect before feb or so
<[vince]> Grendel: you can sabotage it
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<Grendel_P> Vince--Sabotage?  Like do what?
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  See if the slow down happens on missions 1-3, not just 4, ok?
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<LeChuck> George: Where do you guys stand on that 30 level addon pack you said you 
might do after the Plut. Pack?
<[vince]> Grendel: i dunno.. there are many things you can do to slow down a 
computer
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<Blackhnd> George I expierence the slowdowns in 2,3 & 4
<chains> SO how tough are the bots really? scale of 1-10?
<Blackhnd> Babe Land is the worst
<GeorgB3DR> black:  Is it from warping, or cheating?  do you get it during normal 
play?
<MtlHead> I have seen the slow down in levels 2, 3, 4, and it nearly completely 
siezed in level 5 George
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<chains> george: I can't find plut pak anywhere, its all sold out
<GeorgB3DR> le:  Future Duke plans are being evaluated and changing week to week.  
we hope to have a solid Duke attacjk plan prior to xmas
<Grendel_P> God.  I tried once by infecting our computer with viruses out the 
wazoo, in the hopes my dad would think it was the PC and replace it, but then 
he got the Tape Backup...
<Blackhnd> Nope my Hard Drive basically has a heart attack, espically in the room 
with the big fountain and the cannon area
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<GeorgB3DR> chains:  i think the retailers inder-estimated demand.  all the local 
stores in dallas are sold out too
* LeChuck thinks lag sucks...
<RobBrown> Blackhand:Does it appear to happen in open areas with lots of activity?
<[vince]> there are literally millions of sprites in alot of those levels.. could 
that be why it slows down like that?
<chains> george: so it is safe to say Plut pak is proof that he isnt a HUGE loss
<MtlHead> The hard drive sounds like it's being accessed for every frame of 
animation......sound is compressed when it is doing this also....the chain gun 
sounds like a burp.
<GeorgB3DR> black:  try it in DOS too.  
<RobBrown> chains:See for yourself! :)
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<Blackhnd> Rob not really activity but the bigger rooms with paralaxed skys
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  No
<P-Man> Anyone got any good new tiles they would be willing to share?
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<Blackhnd> Of course I tried in it in dos ;)
<Grendel_P> Oy vey!  Anyone got any good levels for trade?
<Brodo> Hello all
<[vince]> hmmm
<RobBrown> Hi Brodo
<GeorgB3DR> we'll hit the slowdown bug asap
<MtlHead> I play in nothing but Dos.....I have deleted the whole thing several 
times and done fresh reloads...nothing helps.
<Brodo> whats up rob?
<GeorgB3DR> keep track of what you do, right before you see it happen.  Play with 
the framerate on the screen, and look for big drops
<RobBrown> Brodo:Not alot...just kinda "tuning in" :)
<chains> george: i have heard that SW will kick duke's ass, is that truth?  Tough 
to top duke.
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<MtlHead> OKie, will do George
<Grendel_P> P-Man--Thanx.  Do you want ANSLEM.MAP?
<Brodo> whats SW?
<P-Man> Can someone tell me real quick how to adjust the frame rate while building 
and/or playing?
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<MtlHead> dnrate
<GeorgB3DR> chains:  that's our goal
<Grendel_P> P-MAN--Adjust the frame rate?
<Nvass> hi everyone
<GeorgB3DR> pman:  dnrate
<RobBrown> Hi Nvass
<MtlHead> Hello nvass
<Nvass> a lot of ppl here tonight i see.
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<RobBrown> Nvass:Activity has picked up quite a bit since PPAk has been released. 
:)
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<MtlHead> George, would it help if I recorded a demo of the situation happening?
<Nvass> rob: oh ok.
<Nvass> what does the topic mean?
<Nvass> against what bot?
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  might.  i think it's system dependant, since we've only seen 
something like that once, on one pc
<LeChuck> Nvass!
<LeChuck> :)
<RobBrown> Nvass:It's how to play a fake-multiplayer game against dukbots in PPak
<MtlHead> Nvass, Duke3d has a built in bot to play Dmatch with.
<chains> robbrown: I would, if i could find it somewhere!
<Nvass> sounds kewl.
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<RobBrown> chains:Try Electronic Boutique
<[vince]> chains: Software Etc.
<HorsePuck> George: Would there happen to be an option in any future game releases 
where if you get spiked by something your body will stick to the spike to make 
a nice gory scene when you pass it next time?
<RobBrown> chains:I can't find it in Yakima yet either. :)
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<GeorgB3DR> horse:  possibly, younever know about those kinds of ideas
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<MtlHead> BRB, I'm gonna go see if I can play with the slowdown thing somemore
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<[vince]> argh
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<P-Man> GeorgB3DR... are they ever going to make a build program that's a bit more 
user friendly?
<Blackhnd> build is as user friendly as they come ;)
<chains> george: heard rumors about tcp/ip support for sw, is it just rumors?
<RobBrown> P-Man:Lots of books out.
<GeorgB3DR> pman: the Prey editor will be more friendly, but Build is "as is"
<P-Man> EGADS!
<GeorgB3DR> pman:  Buy the SYBEX book on Build editing
<P-Man> Prey editor?
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<[vince]> George: i assume you can't use .con hacks that were made with v1.3 of 
duke with v1.4, right?
<GeorgB3DR> chains:  No tcp/ip for Shadow Warrior and probably not Blood either
<Grendel_P> BUILD is great.  Very full and meaty!
<P-Man> Yeah, but still tricky in places
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<Ulmo> hi everyone!
<[vince]> Build rules, and it tastes great with milk!
<RobBrown> Frickin netsplit!
<PreySpy> Hi
<P-Man> Wish you could see things move while building (doors, etc.)
<Grendel_P> Yeah.  I still can't do a decent working elevator.  It either leaves 
mr floating or squarshes me to death
<[vince]> haha
<chains> robbrown good idea
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<chains> vince: software etc. is all out!
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<[vince]> chains: damn!
<chains> in mpls that is
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<RobBrown> Aye another pirate matey!!
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<Grendel_P> P-MAN--Yah, but there are some programmes out there that let you hop 
between build and duke and whatnot
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<Q-Zar> hello all
<chains> gost, if i had PP, i surely wouldnt be on IRC :)
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<Q-Zar> Does anyone know where I can find the Plutonium Pak? j/k Rob 
<Q-Zar> I haven't been here in a while.
<RobBrown> Q-Zar:Electronic Boutique. :)
<Grendel_P> q-zar--yr local software retailer, man!
<Q-Zar> I know dude, chill.
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<RobBrown> Q-Zar was joking. :)
<Grendel_P> q-zar--just yanking you
<chains> whoa, portland must have crashed
<GeorgB3DR> keep getting disconnected
<Q-Zar> whats the bot in the topic about?
<chains> or something
<RobBrown> Darn netsplits anyway
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<Grendel_P> q-zar--Dukematch bots im sure
<PreySpy> Yeah sometimes when you use the elevators alot in duke3d they get locked 
in ifinity 
<[vince]> George: i assume you can't use .con hacks that were made with v1.3 of 
duke with v1.4, right?
<chains> hello
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<GeorgB3DR> vince:  actually I think they might work.  Just need to try and see.  
Should be backward compatible
<RobBrown> George:Not to change the subject, but what's your gut feeling on the 
reletive release times of Shadow Warrior and Blood? Do you think they will be 
neck and neck?
<Q-Zar> Kewl, does ne1 here have the bots, or do they come with the Plu-Pak?
<GeorgB3DR> rob:  They will be at least 2-3 months apart, regardless of when they 
are ready
<LeChuck> Q: Comes with the pack.
<Q-Zar> Ok
<Grendel_P> q-zar--I know that some people have released their own bots.  There is 
a program called DukeBOT, but it's supposed to be dumb as a box of hair
<chains> Q-zar: I can't find it anywhere either
<chains> sold out lots of places
<Q-Zar> Has anyone played them? Are they challenging?
<Q-Zar> heeh
<GeorgB3DR> they are deadly.  probably too hard :)
<RobBrown> Q-Zar:They are killing machines! :)
<[vince]> Q Zar: they are perfect
<Q-Zar> Good, I need a challenge.
<PreySpy> Cool
<RobBrown> George:Nay.....they are good for increasing ones heart-rate. :)
<Q-Zar> hehe
<PreySpy> As long as its better the Qake
<GeorgB3DR> ah, so plut pak is also an aerobic exercise device....cool
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<Blackhand> So far i have tried taking on 2 of the bots at a time and i came out 
ahead ;)
<Grendel_P> PreySpy--Have some faith!
<PreySpy> ha ha ha
<Blackhand> Yet I like the option that they can track you down fast ;)
<PreySpy> what do you mean Grendel_P
<chains> george: i heard your tough, how do u do against the bots?
<RobBrown> Blankhand:You are a lousy liar! :)
<Grendel_P> I dunno.  
<Blackhand> Yeah sure Rob ;)
<Blackhand> What was the score when I played you? ;)
<GeorgB3DR> chains:  ahven't played them yet :)  too scared....
<Q-Zar> What do they look like? (excuse me for being ignorant) Duke or some type 
of monster?
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<GeorgB3DR> duke
<Grendel_P> qzar--Duke
<Q-Zar> Ok.
<RobBrown> Blankhand:But I'm lousy. :)
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<chains> hehe
<Blackhand> hehehe
<RobBrown> How'd the testing go MtlHead?
<MtlHead> Heya
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<PreySpy> I don't have faith in a satanic game like Quake Grendel_P
<MtlHead> Shitty
<Garrp> Hi everyone. Hi George.
<chains> quake sucks
<[vince]> heya Garrp
<GeorgB3DR> garrp....
<Garrp> hey vince
<Grendel_P> I meant in whatever you were talking about OPPOSED to Quake.  Quake is 
boring as all hell
<PreySpy> HI
<[vince]> Quake is ok.. single play blows goats, but Internet play is cool
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<PreySpy> O LOL
<MtlHead> I damn near froze on level 2 when I entered the DukeBurger and came 
around the corner where the counter was......
<chains> internet is lag city for quake
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  what pc you got?  speed, hardware etc??
<Boba_Fett> hi
<[vince]> Internet play is not as bad as everyone says it is..
<PreySpy> Hi
<Blackhand> chains, your misinformed then
<GeorgB3DR> mtL:  did you restore to get there?  warp?  or just play?
<Grendel_P> Quake is boring.  About as exciting as kissing your sister
<Blackhand> chains Im sure it is if your playing on a 486 on a 14.4
<Boba_Fett> @help
<Blackhand> Grendal....
<GeorgB3DR> depends how cute your sister is :)
<Blackhand> You better chill
<PreySpy> Yeah it too Dark
<[vince]> hahahah
<Q-Zar> i-net play is ok with 28.8, u just have to use qspy to find the fastest 
server.
<chains> blackhand: i was on a p166 28.8
<MtlHead> I have a Pentium 133, 16 meg mem, Diamond Stealth 3D 200 XL video card, 
SBlaster AWE 32, and the game is on a Conners 540 mg HD
<Garrp> Anyone else having problems with PP? It zorped my saved games!!
<RobBrown> Boba Fett:Whatcha need help with?
<PreySpy> Yeah it too and not that humorous
<Grendel_P> George--D'oh! 
* ATBrill thinks he better not try plut pack at all if Mtl is having problems... 
hehe
<MtlHead> George, I warped there.....
<[vince]> George: i hope you guys don't make Prey dark and satanic..
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  email me all that and anything else you find ok?  P133 with 
stealth is interesting....
<MtlHead> OKie
<Grendel_P> Vince--Prey is about aliens, not big dopey demons
<Grendel_P> it wont be satanic
<[vince]> Grendal: i know, but it could still be dark
<PreySpy> Yeah COOL STUFF
<MtlHead> When I played DukeBurger last night...I had no problems whatsoever......
<GeorgB3DR> just scary as hell :)
<[vince]> and i am tired of dark games
<MtlHead> Wierd
<Blackhand> dark games are cool
<RobBrown> MtlHead:Maybe it's a warp/restore thing??
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<Grendel_P> vince--I like some dark games, if the darkness isn't overdone and 
hacneyed
<Garrp> Hey George, u were right, those PP bots rule! But no jetpack and they're 
problematic in the water though.
<GeorgB3DR> mtl: we have one guy that hd the same probelm you are having.  seemed 
to be lined to warp, or save/load
<[vince]> dark games WERE cool untill 70,000 of them were made
<MtlHead> Rob I doubt it......
<PreySpy> Yeah dark it cool
<GeorgB3DR> garrp:  I know, can't use teleporters either, but that all balances 
their deadly aim
<chains> quake is too damn brown
<Garrp> I've heard something about a disk cache issue with PP. I dunno.
<{-NukE-}> Anyone from NC ? IF so...up for a Dukematch ?
<PreySpy> Here here
<GeorgB3DR> garrp:  any problems will be patched asap...of course.
<Grendel_P> Dark is good if its well done.  If its dark for the sake of being 
dark, it sux.  If its dark for a valid reason, like backing up a storyline 
effectively, its worth it.
<MtlHead> Now that I think about it, Warping may be part of it.....I'm gonna bail 
out again and run throught it normally until I run into it again.....
<Garrp> George: True, their aim is indeed deadly. And their speed! No wonder u 
thought Dukebot was slow!
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<chains> george: will there be enough time to patch b4 the full atomic release?
<GeorgB3DR> dark is great as long as there is some light to contrast against.
<RobBrown> Okay MtlHead
<MtlHead> Be back in a few...
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<GeorgB3DR> chains:  dunno.  also don;t think the problem is too widepsread.  
probably 10% of people or so.
<Grendel_P> George--Amen to that, brother.  Unbalanced darkness does bite.  There 
needs to be a touch of lite to offset it.
<Blackhand> i think a little more
<RobBrown> The good news is....everyone agrees that the PPak levels are the best 
ever!
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<chains> Bright colors, like in duke, make the game seem more alive or something
<Blackhand> Mtlhead said he talked to 10 people that all had the problem plus all 
the posts on usenet
<[vince]> Quake was too dark and brown. if Prey ends up being Dark and brown, it's 
gonna be really bad
<GeorgB3DR> where on usenet?  so I can read them
<Blackhand> Dunno, I'll calll mtlhead ans ask
<Grendel_P> chains--The brite colors work if they are fitting.  I don't think some 
games would do well with trippy color schemes
<chains> alt.games.duke3d maybee?
<Grendel_P> Prey will be kewl, from what I've seen in previews.
<Blackhand> Whoops, he says he heard alot of people complaining about it on effnet
<Deadzone> so is prey gonna take two megs of video ram or one?
<RobBrown> I haven't seen any posts yet on it on CIS or AOL yet Blackhand
<Blackhand> Im gonna got check the duke3d newsgroup real quick
<GeorgB3DR> dead:  dunno
<GeorgB3DR> duke3d was clean too
<[vince]> George: are you going to support cards like the Monster 3D with Prey 
right off? or are we going to have to wait for you to release a version that 
will take advantage of it
<Blackhand> whoah
<Blackhand> George...
<Blackhand> Remember Brad?
<RobBrown> Deadzone:I'd guess you'll want a video card that supports directX or 
something for Prey
<GeorgB3DR> Vince:  Prey will probably be hardware only. You will need an 
accelerator to run it.  Any card that supports direct 3d will be supported
<[vince]> George: w00p!!! coolness!
<GeorgB3DR> brad who?  I think so....
<Blackhand> Brad, the person who stood ya up
<GeorgB3DR> yes...
<[vince]> Brad.. Brad&co dude
<Blackhand> about a week or so ago
<Deadzone> ya, i have that rob, i just thought i read somewhere where it might 
take two and i wanted to verify
<Grendel_P> George--D'oh!  Better start saving BIG TIME!  Faster processor, 3D 
board...
<Blackhand> He posted on usenet saying you were to chicken to play him
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<PreySpy> 3DFX
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<GeorgB3DR> i predict all 3d games will be hardware only from mid 1998 on...
<[vince]> 3dfx cards RULE!
<PreySpy> Monster 3D
-Nedx- Sup Bobby?
<PreySpy> AWESOME
<GeorgB3DR> black:  I saw it.  who cares.  I crushed his friend 10-0, on 2 maps 
and he said he beat the other brad.  I could care less ;)
<GeorgB3DR> Anyone got an Orchid righteous 3D?
<[vince]> George: you think prey will run decently on a P100 w/24 megs of RAM and 
a Monster 3D? (4 meg 3dfx card)
<RobBrown> The Voodoo boards appear to be the front runners...along with possibly 
the Verite boards
<Blackhand> hehehehe
<GeorgB3DR> voince:  Prey will rock because it's hardware only (probably)
<Blackhand> I would if I had 300$ for one ;)
<RobBrown> Hi Nedx
<[vince]> k
<[vince]> coolness :)
<PreySpy> good
<GeorgB3DR> P100 ok, cause the card does most of the work
<[vince]> yeah
<Blackhand> Of course I;m thinking of getting Diamond's Monster 3D
<[vince]> Black: get it! it rules!
<GeorgB3DR> rob:  Right. 
<Nedx> Any new news on Shadow Warrior?
<Grendel_P> Battery--Hey!  Anslem kix arse!
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<PreySpy> Yeah thats a cool Map
<RobBrown> I got an Interaction (Sierra) magazine and they are promoting the 
Screamin 3D board. It looks like a good deal for $200 too.
<Grendel_P> PreySpy--Seems almost reminiscent of...stupid ass Quake!  But better, 
cuz its Duke!
<Boba_Fett> QUAKE SUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Ulmo> gotta go
<Ulmo> I JUST GOT THE PP!
<GeorgB3DR> why boba?
<Grendel_P> Bobafett--No kidding!
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<Nedx> Rob: Did you see the pictures of Roberta's latest installment in that 
Interatcion?
<Blackhand> Rob... When I buy a 3d card it will have the 3dfx chip ;)
<chains> preach on Boba
<Boba_Fett> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ahhahahhahahahahahahahahh!!!!!!!!!!!
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<Blackhand> Boba: chill d00d
<Boba_Fett> Quake CAN SUCK MY DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<PreySpy> right on Grendal_P
<Boba_Fett> ok
<RobBrown> Blackhand:The Screamin is a Verite board
<[vince]> Quake doesn't suck.. it's not GREAT, but it doesn't suck
* /sound: Unable to play flush.wav
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<Genocide> Boba_Fett is my MASTER YOU LAMER ! Don't even THINK about kicking 
Boba_Fett !
<Grendel_P> PreySpy--Yessir!  Youbet!
-Blackhand- George... I think most people say Quake Sucks to get on your good side 
;)
<mikey``> anyone here play redalert yet
<chains> quake is a step backward from doom imo
<[vince]> 3dfx and Verite look like the best out there
<RobBrown> mikey:I just got it today!
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<chains> as far as fun goes
<RobBrown> °¨¨°º©[RáÞTûRÈ]©º°¨¨° is searching for clones to banish on #duke3d
<RobBrown> Clone 1: Genocide!*Goto@hd27-012.compuserve.com
<RobBrown> Clones kick search over. There were 1 Clones found to be kickbanned.
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<Garrp> heheh
<Boba_Fett> sorry
<mikey``> i get hung up on mission 10 being the russians
<Blackhand> But 3dfx will be more supported in the future
<[vince]> Black: yup
<chains> so freedom of speech doesnt extend to IRC?
<Nvass> mikey:RED ALERT?
<RobBrown> mikey:aven't got that far yet. :)
<Blackhand> Chains: Only under our terms ;)
<RobBrown> chains:It does in YOUR channel. :)
<mikey``> yep
<Nvass> red alert rulez/.
<chains> george: thats an idea a 3d game with a WW2 scenario
<Grendel_P> Chains--uhhh...Wolf3D.
<GeorgB3DR> chains: Nah, too limited due to history 
<[vince]> chains: ummm... Wonlf3d
<RobBrown> chains:Wolf3D? :)
<chains> not the wolfenstein type
<chains> i mean real WW2
<chains> not some geeky looking nazi's
<GeorgB3DR> rather have cool sci fi stuff to play with and no limits
<Q-Zar> bye all
<Grendel_P> Chains--you mean like gruntwork and stuff
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<RobBrown> George:Will the Shadow Warrior character have a name?
<GeorgB3DR> rob:  maybe,  "Hung Lo" ???
<Grendel_P> George--Name him Raoul!
<[vince]> hahaha
<RobBrown> hahha
<chains> liu kang?
<[vince]> George: what kind of violence-level will we see in SW? will it be more 
violent that Duke?
<Blackhand> George, Drop a penny and whatever sound it makes will be his last name 
;)
<Nedx> Would be cool if you could personlize your ninja.
<GeorgB3DR> Vince:  Similar to Duke and a little more
<Grendel_P> Vince--you seen any screenshots!  It will
<[vince]> haha
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<chains> blood looks REALLY gruesome
<[vince]> chains: agreed
<Grendel_P> chains--you bet
<chains> I LOVE IT!
<RobBrown> George:Will there be magic in Shadow Warrior like in ninja movies?
<PreySpy> SW looks COOL
<GeorgB3DR> rob:  Probably not, but we might do smoke bombs and flash bombs etc...
<[vince]> George: can we Kung-Fu in shadow warrior? like kick and stuff?
<chains> DUKE knows kung-fu
<PreySpy> yes
<GeorgB3DR> You'll get a little magic power from the body parts like heart and 
head
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  No.
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<[vince]> (sorry i am asking lame questions.. i haven't slept in 22 hours..)
<RobBrown> Smoke/Flash bombs would be really cool in Deathmatch!
<Boba_Fett> he has the kung fu kick down pretty well
<CA> hi all... Duke question
<Grendel_P> Bye everyone!
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<GeorgB3DR> rob:  They will probably happen
<chains> what CA?
<RobBrown> Will Shadow Warrior have a "Kung-fu Grip(tm)" :) hehhehe
<CA> thanks chains..  
<PreySpy> Neat
<chains> we don't know anything about duke here
<GeorgB3DR> Rob:  "Hung Lo Grip (tm)" he he
<[vince]> hahaha
<RobBrown> Hung Lo......That's a keeper!
<[vince]> you should name him that
<GeorgB3DR> vince:  I think we are....Been pretty popular in the office
<CA> well the place I used to work.. I played every day against five or six guys.. 
now.. I can't find out how to play like that over the net or modem.. 
<[vince]> but be completely serious about it in the manual and readme files and 
stuff :)
<chains> subways in SW? BaBES? cool looking urban areas?
<RobBrown> I gotta go...see ay later
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<CA> the modem version is only one other player and has an annoying delay
<[vince]> lates Rob
Session Close: Sat Nov 30 05:56:40 1996