George Broussard in #Duke3D   12-6-96

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<GeorgB3DR> Hi all
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<Viacom> !@!@!!
<Viacom> !
<MtlHead> Hiya George.
<Viacom> good midis!
<phoebus> dudes, I'm extremely lagged it seems
<GeorgB3DR> crap, just sneezed on my screen :)
<phoebus> George!  :)
<Viacom> haha
<\|JkD|\> yeah
<\|JkD|\> it's george
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<Viacom> we all live in a yellow submarine!
<GeorgB3DR> Anyone new get the Plut PAK yet?  Thought?  Bugs?
<phoebus> George: I'm ready for my rematch
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<Viacom> its her dolly!
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<DOL_away> yeah
<GeorgB3DR> So, any Plut PAK players here?
<phoebus> George, I play on a P133 w/ 32 megs ram . . . I didn't get the end cut 
scene
<MtlHead> Goerge, still buggy
<phoebus> I've played it all the way through
<D_Nukem> George: Any more luck with the slow bug, reproducing it?
<MtlHead> whoops, George...:)
<GeorgB3DR> phoeb: did you press space too fast?  Play with parental lock on?
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  I thought smartdrv fixed you?
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<Totalylag> hrmmm...
<GeorgB3DR> DN:  Not really.  Most of it is caused by low mem, or not using 
smartdrv
<phoebus> George: no; any other way I can view it?
<MtlHead> I thought so also.....btu after some extended play...it started acting 
up again...just not as bad.
<Totalylag> ehyas george
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<Patola> Hey George
<Patola> How you going?
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<Patola> I loved Plutopak.
<D_Nukem> George: I saw that Xenophage 1.1 was released! Yay! :)
<Viacom> well george if you send my plutonium pack for free I will be more than 
happy to test out for the slow bug!! ;)
<Totalylag> hrmmm....
<GeorgB3DR> phoeb: not sure...try it a couple of more times
<Patola> But the infinite sprites bugs was not fixed, isn't it? I think it 
worsed somehow, it often gets a massive slowdown.
<phoebus> George: You up for a modem-modem rematch?  If not, let me know when
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  has nothing to do with that bug
<GeorgB3DR> it's something else
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<GeorgB3DR> phoeb:  No, i'd just pound you again anyway :)
<Totalylag> hrmmm
<Patola> Oh, and is this bug going to be fixed?
<phoebus> George: You didn't "pound" me the first time
<GibsonLP> Hello
<phoebus> got a rep to uphold :)
<MtlHead> George, something interesting I noticed, when you save a game and you 
have duke looking at an area that is causing a slow down....the image that is 
saved in the save game area is distorted real bad.
<GibsonLP> Well get a better machine
<phoebus> George: I just like to play the best players
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<GeorgB3DR> yes, if we find it.  problem is it doesn't appear on any of our 
machines, and I don;'t see many people with it
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<Patola> George: I've noticed some other things. For example, when you load a 
saved game from the game menu, it doesn't load the level with the proper 
music.
<GeorgB3DR> mtl:  sned me a screen shot of it. press f12
<MtlHead> OKie
<Blackhand> Hey George ;)
<iuh> Hey Gearge
<Totalylag> sum dood is trying to get in here who's on da phone wid me and he's 
havin problems connecting... he's says George had better stay or else
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  You sure?
<Blackhand> George, the smartdrv 4000, lowered my frame rate down to 4 fps, but 
smartdrv 8000 works fine 
<GibsonLP> 4 fps....??
<Patola> George: Also, your new level designer is quite good, the design is 
terrific. BUT it doesn't follow some patterns. For example, he doesn't make 
the fire extinguishers make a hole in the wall. In the former duke3d levels, 
ALL extinguishers blast these holes.
<GeorgB3DR> black:  so with smartdrv 8000, the game runs fine?
<GibsonLP> What smartdrv 8000?
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<Patola> George: Yes, I am not sure if it happens when you are already playing a 
game and load or if you start it right from the game menu, without starting a 
game before. I use the /# parameter to fix this...
<AfRO> dats right
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<Blackhand> George, yeah
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you are having slowdown problems in the PPak!"
<GeorgB3DR> Maybe it's just gonna require more than 8 megs now.  we will look at 
the caching code again
<GeorgB3DR> is the pak available in everyone's city yet?
<GibsonLP> Is there a duke 2 coming sometime?????
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: Remember that time you joined here and asked for a complete 
report? I was there and I had a complete report of the plutopak, but I was 
lagged and I couldn't talk to you.
<GeorgB3DR> we will start a new duke game soon
<pailhead> GibsonLP: Duke 2 has been out for quite awhile ;)
<phoebus> George: with a new engine?
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<Viacom> !
<Viacom> well george if you send my plutonium pack for free I will be more than 
happy to test out for the slow bug!! ;)
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: It is available here in Brazil, but I haven't bought it 
here. I've order from the US instead, it goes cheaper.
<GibsonLP> no shit pailhead....really....?
<GeorgB3DR> not talking about it now.  :)
<UrHaSh> Can someone port the Indiana Jones secret level to wad format please?
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<Blackhand> George, is Xmas duke still going to happen?
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<D_Nukem> Blackhand: Talking about that Xmas '99 Duke again? :)
<GeorgB3DR> black:  no, not enough time....
<GibsonLP> Haven't heard of Duke 2 at all...waiting for Dark Forces II 
<|Duke|> George!
<Blackhand> hehehe
<GeorgB3DR> hey duke
<phoebus> George: I like the duke bots; will there be upgrades for that?
<UrHaSh> Can someone port the Indiana Jones secret level to wad format please?
<D_Nukem> A lot of people have seen that game called, Duke Nukem 2.
<phoebus> George: they're very limited
<GeorgB3DR> phoeb:  Maybe, depends on if ken wants to mess with them anymore
<phoebus> George: is the kicking so you'll know where they are, or are they just 
"confused"?
<Patola> Dukebot ROCKS!!!
<MtlHead> The current bots are fun...but get predictable after a bit:)
<GeorgB3DR> confused, and stupid
<GibsonLP> Oh, but Duke Nukem 3D 2
<D_Nukem> Are all Gibsons alike? :)  (Blackhand)
<GibsonLP> Really needs a boost...gets so boring after a few dozen hours of 
modem play
<phoebus> George: So much could be done with them, I'm sure
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: The dukebots have a problem with overlapping sectors... They 
are quite confused by it. Just to report, if you are going to upgrade.
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<GeorgB3DR> patola:  thanks.  we know their weaknesses, they were just a quick 
hack to test them anyway
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: I've also noticed a few texture flaws on the levels. For 
example, the conveyor belts were not quite right, the texture at the corners 
was not matching.
<snoopy> i have never played duke3d is it good?
<Blackhand> hehehe
<Blackhand> Cant say ive noticed the itty bitty details like that ;)
<Patola> snoopy: no it's not good. It's the BEST game ever!!!! :-)
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<phoebus> I've noticed a lot of little "flaws"
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<|Duke|> there were hardly any flaws in the plain Duke3d..
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<Nya> hey anyone got any good maps for DMing?
<GeorgB3DR> yuo can alwasy find piddly stuff if you look at levels close enough. 
 there are lots of misaligned textures in quake, but who cares? :)
<Blackhand> hehehehe
<Blackhand> thats the truth
<|Duke|> George - Do you know about the mistake in the first level, where you 
can get from the secret room to the arcade by going through the wall?
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<Blackhand> |Duke|: Who dosent know about that? ;)
<GeorgB3DR> duke:  yes, there are a few of those.  we stomp them out when and if 
we can
<Blackhand> I think it is neat for escaping attacks in there
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: Not quite. these kind of flaws I've not found on the three 
first episodes, and I've searched for it carefully. I am not whining, 
though... The shadowing and design of the new levels is the best ever.
<GeorgB3DR> we redesigned the doors on cinema so they don't kill you as much for 
example
<GeorgB3DR> so not other real plut bugs then?
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<D_Nukem> I guess not, it's pretty bug free.
<|Duke|> okey.. just making sure :)
<Blackhand> hahahaha
<MtlHead> Nah, other than I can't play at 800x600 with my Diamond 3D 2000 
card...;(
<Blackhand> I wouldnt go that far D ;)
<Corpse> looking for Ultimate MK3  or  Espn Extreme Games
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<Blackhand> Travis, stop your whinin 
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: I've noticed you redesigned some things and changed some 
object positions. This means plutopak is incompatible with duke for 
dukematch, even in the three first episodes, isn't it?
<MtlHead> Corpse...no warez here.....
<Blackhand> ;)
* |Duke| kicks Corpse in the balls....... *ouch* 
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  it is incompatible because the version number changed 
anyway, 
<Corpse> MtlHead.... do you listen to metal?
<|Duke|> Corpse- WAREZ=EVIL
<UrHaSh> can somoene tell me what level the indy-jone level is on?
<Patola> George: yes, I know.
<Blackhand> Ursh... Hotel Hell
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<Blackhand> Urha... even ;)
<GeorgB3DR> ur:  level 3-8, hotel hell
<Faz|msg> Could someone please donate, a p200 to me please?
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  well then, that's why it's incompatible.  the level changes 
would do that too.  cause sync errors
<Faz|msg> I am not playing any more modem games...with my sorry little cpu.
<D_Nukem> Faz: Sure!
* Blackhand laughs
<Faz|msg> Ohh..thanx D nukem.
<UrHaSh> thanks GeorgB3DR
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<Faz|msg> (486dx266 mhz, 8 megs ram.)
<Blackhand> Faz... should I dcc it to you? ;)
<Faz|msg> I played a modem game...the guy is in front of me..i fire..blamo..he's 
behind me.
<GeorgB3DR> tell anyone with cache/slowdown problems in plut pak, to load 
"smartdrv 4000" or so.  Might not really be a bug, just require more memory
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<Faz|msg> My cpu can't keep up with the movement of character.
<|Duke|> George - Just out of curosity, what akind of PC do you personally own?
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<Faz|msg> George...maybe you can send me one!
<Faz|msg> ;)
<GeorgB3DR> duke:  P166, 32 megs, siamond steath 64
<UrHaSh> can someone please port level 3-8 to .wad format and mail it to me?
<|Duke|> ack, kind
<GeorgB3DR> faz:  maybe you can buy more games from us, so I can afford it? :)
* Faz|msg would say Geroge sucks....but I am not the jealous type..;)
<GeorgB3DR> ur:  That would be a lot of work.  doubt anyone will do ti
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<Faz|msg> George.....that's almost funny...but I am getting a graphic arts 
job...realllllly soon.
<Patola> GeorgB3DR: I would like to talk about some business, if you don't mind. 
Is there any code in duke3d that allows a timed connection? For those people 
who would make funhouses for playing dukematches. And also, I am making a 
games page in Brazil that will be like Eite Games or Games Domain... COuld I 
mantain some contact with 3D Realms?
<|Duke|> George - Woah.. coolness, almost the same as mine, just that I have a 
Rage 3d, and no diamond stealth 64..
<Faz|msg> So maybe!!
<Faz|msg> George...maybe you could give me the job, instead of McDonnell 
douglas....need any artists..???
<Faz|msg> ;)
<UrHaSh> actually, I believe that some editors have that as a built in feature.
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<D_Nukem> Faz: Actually, they are always looking
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  You have what's in the con files etc to use.  If you can't 
do it with them, don't ask.
<Faz|msg> Well..dat's what I am.
<GeorgB3DR> faz: always.  send in a cool demo disk
<Faz|msg> Ok..you got it m' man.
<D_Nukem> Faz: Go to Apogee's page, and go to Jobs, there is a lot of info 
there.
<Faz|msg> Smooth!
<GeorgB3DR> ur:  duke has a map -> wad converter.  try that
* |Duke| just about melted his flightstick pro. From now on I have to make sure 
that I don't leave it under my halogen light :)
<UrHaSh> I only have shareware duke. :(
<Faz|msg> George...here's a question...are the sprites in Duke...hand done..then 
scanned..or done on a cpu..a 3d package?? what?
<UrHaSh> that's why I'm requesting someone here please do it.
<GeorgB3DR> what price is Plut PAK at out there, where you bought it?  
curious...
<Totalylag> hrmmmm
<Patola> George: ok, and what about the games page thing?
<Totalylag> you melted Dook?
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<GeorgB3DR> faz;  the creature sprites are rendered and then hand touched.  lots 
of the tiles are hand drawn, some are rendered
<UrHaSh> they're 2-D scanned images.
<Totalylag> I be leaving now
<|Duke|> Lag - just about
<Faz|msg> YES! I didn't want to have to do everything..pixel..by pix...like I do 
on my drawing package...BORING.
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  do whatever game page thing you like.  You can grab stuff 
from our site, but we don't get involved directly with anything.  no time
<Dalamar> i still cant get the PPak in stores by me
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<Patola> George: you talking to me? If you are, the plutopak here is costing 
about US$70.
<Dalamar> any idea when they should arrive?
<GeorgB3DR> dalamar:  where?
<D_Nukem> Basicly, copy and paste, Patola :)
<Dalamar> chicago
<phoebus> George: Is there any way to use the 8 diff. sprites for dead 
characters, as is used in live ones, just for the 3d effect?
<Dalamar> flossmoor acctuly
<Dalamar> it is a suburb
<Faz|msg> Phoebus..wouldn't that be a waste of space?
<GeorgB3DR> dalamar:  Chicago?  Jesus, you'd think it'd be in a big city right?  
I'd hope in a few days.  The initial run sold out in a day or so :(
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<Patola> George: Ok. Seems like I've made you angry, sorry :-(
<D_Nukem> George: How many copies of the PPak were shipped out?
<Dalamar> thanks
<Faz|msg> That would simply be for effect...I wouldn't care if I could see a 
dead body from different angles...just as long as I make 'em dead...know what 
I am sayin'? ;)
<phoebus> George: . . . at least until the disappear? Or is that considered a 
needless load on cpu?
<GeorgB3DR> any more pak prices??
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  No you haven't....no problem...
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<GeorgB3DR> phoebus:  Yes, if you have 16-32 megs
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<D_Nukem> I'm going to CompUSA Sunday, I'll get a PPak price
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<Faz|msg> George..don't answer this...but you must enjoy getting bombarded with 
2308230492834 questions..'else ya' wouldn't be here. ;)
<GeorgB3DR> dn:  Not sure, 50K or more,  they under estimated demand a lot
<Faz|msg> George, what are your thoughts, on people doing conversions, changing 
things..A.K.A. Doom/aliens stuff?
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<phoebus> George: Yes, I have 32
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<Patola> ok thanx
<GeorgB3DR> faz:  conversions are cool.  wish someone would hurry and do a cool 
one
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<Dalamar> cool
<D_Nukem> George: Now since you have the birth, no one can beat that :)
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<UrHaSh> What's going to happen to Prey?
<Dalamar> so you arent against conversions
<GeorgB3DR> dn:  how so???
<Faz|msg> (I am helping some people do one now..that's why I asked..didn't want 
to get chewed out for it. ;)
<GeorgB3DR> ur:  Prey is going finwe
<D_Nukem> Prey is going to happen, sometime :)
<GeorgB3DR> dalamar:  not as long as people don't sell them
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<pailhead> George: I think I saw Atomic Addition for $40 and PPak for $29...
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<Dalamar> cool
<Blackhand> Prey will happen before the turn of the millinieum (I hope) ;)
<D_Nukem> George: You guys are the best, and I don't think anyone can make an 
add on episode like you guys.
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<GeorgB3DR> pail:  Atomic not out yet.  Dec 22nd or so
<FRoiNieL> Duke sucks
<FRoiNieL> RPGs rule
<FRoiNieL> Duke sucks so much cock it is for horny little pervs
<Dalamar> i thought that the atomic and the PPak were the same thing
<Cerebris> I smell a kick...
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<Dalamar> so do i
<GeorgB3DR> dn:  thanks....we do try
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<UrHaSh> I'm not George, but I think it's great. just when you finished Duke, 
there's other places to meet.
<Faz|msg> Uhh..you ok there froiniel?
<GeorgB3DR> looks like froni learned some new words in pre school today
<pailhead> George: it was in the most recent Egghead catalog... 
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<Blackhand> hehehe
* ^Eraser^ i bought duke3d but the fucking cd spun inside my fucking cpu so i 
fucking threw it out and d/l it
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<Cerebris> george:yep
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<Kairu> Duke3d SUCKS!
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<Faz|msg> Eraser....colorful languge...you should go to New York..where I just 
moved from.
<Kcowolf> Duke3d SUCKS!
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<[]Duke[]> ack.. 
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<Pixle> Whoa
<{-NukE-}> whats all this sudden Duke trashing ?
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<Faz|msg> Ok..if they want to do that.
<UrHaSh> how many people can play Multiplayer at one time?
<Faz|msg> DUKE RULES!
<Faz|msg> ;)
<GeorgB3DR> Black:  Should have let him stay and get punded on awhile.  Would 
have been fun to make him cry
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<Cerebris> cause george is here
<Cerebris> um
<Faz|msg> (of course it's because Mr. Broussard is here.)
<UrHaSh> can someone mail me the map>wad converter?
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<UrHaSh> what's going on here? if you think Duke sucks, at least say it 
intelligently.. :)
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<Dalamar> what do you need help with?
<GeorgB3DR> ur:  kinda like piracy isn't it?  did you buy the cd?
<UrHaSh> how many people can play Multiplayer at one time?
<Coolun> So george, when are you guys gonna make a patch that won't make us 
re-enter our configs each and every time we run the patch?
<GeorgB3DR> ur: 8
<UrHaSh> piracy> not really.
<GeorgB3DR> cool:  why?  You just create a new one when you upgrade and your 
done
<UrHaSh> I don't do warez and all that other junk.
<Faz|msg> Mr. Broussard....I have the Ppack...but don't have TEN...but I play at 
friends houses...does the Ppack TEN software, I have never even gotten a 6 
player game going on TEN..is that just because of TEN servers? Or, because 
duke software has difficulties handling that over a long distance?
<Cerebris> George: I was wondering...why did 3dRealms decide to put custom art 
and stuff in an art file and not with the map like doom?  It gets kinda 
annoying keeping track of all the art files since they're tiles*.art...
<Coolun> Because it takes 30 minutes to redo the mouse settings.....
<Faz|msg> (sorry about the window-killer question.)
<Coolun> I still haven't got my settings the same as 1.3d
<GeorgB3DR> ur:  Just convertor programs that took us lots of time to write too?
<Puke_Nuke> Anyone got some "stuff"
<Puke_Nuke> ????
<Arabian_K> Georg I'm thinkin of checkin it out alot of ppl are playin it what's 
your web site addy
<Puke_Nuke> Heheheheheheheheheheheh
<Puke_Nuke> Heheheheheheheheheheheh
<Puke_Nuke> Heheheheheheheheheheheh
<Puke_Nuke> Heheheheheheheheheheheh
<Puke_Nuke> Heheheheheheheheheheheh
<Puke_Nuke> Heheheheheheheheheheheh
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<GeorgB3DR> faz:  server distance and load
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<Faz|msg> Thought so, big G..;) Maybe if less people were on there.
<GeorgB3DR> cere:  bad planning on our part.  too late to change
<Faz|msg> :(
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and points the torch at Puke_Nuke 's head.. BURN!!! BURN!!!! FIRE FIRE 
FIRE!!! DIE YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!!! 
<Cerebris> k thanx
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<GeorgB3DR> cool:  the configs are not coompatible.  Nothing can be done between 
versions. sorry
<Faz|msg> Mr. Broussard, will you perhaps, make a patch, allowing games over 
direct internet connection...ala quake?
<phoebus> god, idiots on here
<GeorgB3DR> faz:  not for the current duke.
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<D_Nukem> Faz: That's too much for a patch
<slong> Nooooooooooooooooooo
<Faz|msg> :(
<Faz|msg> Too bad...that might allow for some serious 8 way frag-athons.
<slong> cuz then they wouldn't have an excuse to plug Ten
<GeorgB3DR> right, plus it'd take a year of re-engineering the code... :)
<Faz|msg> I think if all the dukers left TEN..ten would be history.
<GeorgB3DR> would have done it if it was possible
<Faz|msg> (Duke keeps TEN afloat..;)
<GeorgB3DR> faz:  not much activity in the other areas is there?  I think they 
will grow in time with more and more games
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<Patola> GeorgB3DR: just one more thing. The Forum that was on your site won't 
be back?
<slong> George, Where exactly did you guys get your ideas for your levels in 
Duke PP?
<phoebus> slong, you're a real weiner
<Faz|msg> Mr. Broussard..when there is no one in C&C, and Warcraft, and any 
others...there's still, 40 or more, playing duke.
<slong> thanks phoebus
<Arabian_K> Georg I'm thinkin of checkin it out alot of ppl are playin it what's 
your web site addy
<phoebus> drunk, fat and stupid is no way to go through life, man
<GeorgB3DR> patola:  Not the message base, no
<GeorgB3DR> slong:  All over...some from movies, the rest from us
<MtlHead> Arabian, www.3crealms.com
<MtlHead> sorry www.3drealms.com
<Arabian_K> thanx
<pailhead>  www.3crealms.com hhehehehehe
<MtlHead> fat fingers...;)
<Coolun> Are you sure you didn't get it from all the levels that were submitted 
to you guys from your job employment search for level makers?
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<GeorgB3DR> scool:  nope, we had our area 51 level started 2 months before we 
saw the online one :)  good try though
<GeorgB3DR> like we need to steal level ideas...
<[]Duke[]> George - I was wondering about that..
<phoebus> George: Will we see an new update on the SW page soon (I hope)?
<GeorgB3DR> :)
<GeorgB3DR> Randy got the Area 51 idea from seeing Independence Day the first 
day it was out.  Like in May
<phoebus> On the last screenshot, the weapon action and art looks so 
photorealistic . . . is that using rotoscoping?
<GeorgB3DR> phoebus:  Yes, been busy