George Broussard in #3DRealms 8-29-98 Log by NukeDukem ------------------------------------------------- *** GeorgB3DR (~georgeb@209.31.70.35) has joined #3drealms *** n00k sets mode: +o GeorgB3DR [bwernAWAY PING reply]: 57 seconds Heyas Shh! He's here now! -Wipeout- Your Ping Time was10 3secs. Lets get some order up in here ;) *** bwernAWAY's Ping Time was 0secs. Oh, ah, heya George :) *** Raptorman's Ping Time was 2secs. haha Ok..cut it with the quotes :P mahahaha !quote °°\Brutality°°: We're bringing someone else onto the team, whose first feature will be coming the next few days, it's LedBetter * Lithium_ laughs * Tox¦n laughs very hard that weed smoking mofo? heh (quote added by ChrisDay on Fri Aug 28 23:42:03 1998) :D 'bout time we moved ;) Enough, really :) *** n00k is now known as NukeDukem god... the quotes are gonna come flooding in now... :P Hiya George. * NukeDukem listens to Blue Oyster Cult - Dont fear the reaper.mp3 hahaha it won't Just wondering, do you miss the times when you joined #duke3d and everyone went "GEORGE!!!!!!" ? :p Watching episode 2.10 of southpark Hey George notice how everyone who was laughing there isnt on the team anymore :D bunso: no, cause it still happens every time I get on here haha Hex HEY GEORGE!! ;) Hexagon: laughing about what? Bunso: Good idea! George should join #Duke3D I'm not dead, in case anyone was wondering ;) ahem...any groundbreaking news concerning 3drealms we can put on 3dportal? :-) GEORGE!!!!!! :) -bwernAWAY- Visit http://www.dukeworld.com for all of your Duke Nukem needs! And I don't mean a page update :-) uNF The news vultures want screenshots ;) who doesnt Newk ? :) DNF is going to be the all powerful gaming behemoth of 1999. that's all ya get ;) hey gb our screen shots would cause others to seek new lines of work and we cannot allow that.....yet George, you did say that DNF would convert to Unreal quick, we want proof in screenshots ;) Screen Shots let out too much info. Bad for the enemy! *** Hawks_Eye (me@mx0520.gamewood.net) has joined #3drealms it is converted ;) we got guns, guys, what else ya want in there ;) but you're not gonna see if for awhile We mustn't allow their recon. missions to succeed! George: Why the absence from IRC in the last few months? I was going to bug Siegler about it, but now that you're here George. Is there any chance you guys'll put up some scans from the new sketch guys work on apogee1.com? been working, no time, go through phases of not wanting to mess with it LonMatero: my guess is... busy since switch? :D anybody want to play duke nukem that midget you hired to do sketch art, how is he coming along? :) bunso: like to, but it'd give away dnf development stuff. don't want to yet lol Nuke heheheh anybody want to play duke nukem *** [Butane]- (DN4EVER@209.112.60.24) has joined #3drealms isnt it clear by now that no one wants to play Hawk? I'm getting that urge ! George: What is your opinion on how Prey is coming along? Just get some old shizznit out then, his portfolio that got him hired with you guys ;) Will Prey be done this millenium? :D i have to go all of j00 Nuke: Good question :) LOL * SmArT1 is “AWAY“ “*“ idle “*“ Set away at 20:59:16 [PAGER ON (/ctcp SmArT1 PAGE)] <-A Script-> lon: coming along fine. lot's of recent meeting to focus it more and get things moving more and better. The game is going to take shape very soon big thing lately has been converting it to DX6 George: What are your thoughts on the recent Clinton Sex Scandal and how will they affect the development of DNF and Prey? :) *** Effol (~Evol@zoom4183.telepath.com) has joined #3drealms *** bwernAWAY sets mode: +v Effol Prey is taking a bit to do, but it will be worth it, as will DNF, as will Max. George, converting to DX6, does that mean more 3D Card support, but lower 3DFX performance? w00p george! heya Nuke: Yes, and no *** Vertigo` has quit IRC (Leaving) DirectX has been getting better but ive always heard D3D was slower than GLide *** Plutonium has quit IRC (lets beat up on d4ed the rich boy^$@#!@*&**)&*(^*(%#@!$#) George: Figured out if Modem Play will be possible in Prey? i don't think it's enough difference to matter. was Jedi Knight slow? *** Effol is now known as Effol-Fr0 * Effol-Fr0 sets 12AWAY 2-12Auto Reset2- Reason 2[12watching jackie brown2] Pager 2[12ON2] MsgLog 2[12ON2] *** Hawks_Eye (me@mx0520.gamewood.net) has left #3drealms ! lon; no, modem play may be a thing of the past. hard to do that and internet play. they are different *** Effol-Fr0 is now known as Evol * Evol set 12BACK - Away Since 2[127:18:04 PM2] Reason 2[12watching jackie brown2] Will Prey be able to run on Voodoo1's with 2 megs, or will it demand more texture memory? don't even start asking about specs. i dunno George: Speaking of Internet play, is it working in Prey and if so, does it run at an acceptable rate? i doubt ill still have a voodoo1 in a year, but hehe lon: not fully in yet. naturally we will not ship it unless it works. voodoo2 , even sli will be standard in mid 1996. voodoo 1's will be worthless 1999 you mean? 1996? :) voodoo 1's will become p90's. they will work, but not really *** Hawks_Eye (me@mx0520.gamewood.net) has joined #3drealms Will Prey demand more power than Unreal? George: I remember you brought in some 3Dfx guys to do get the Prey engine working great with Glide and Voodoo, did you throw all that out when you moved to DX6? don't know yet. it will demand what it demands *** [Butane] (DN4EVER@209.112.60.56) has joined #3drealms oh really? :) *** [Butane]- has quit IRC (Ping timeout for [Butane]-[209.112.60.24]) George, you guys seemed to know more about the game a year ago ;) George: Will a G200 run DNF and Prey fine? haha lon: lot's of things change when you do an engine from scratch. also time effects things. wouldn't need dx6 if prey was out. *** Hawks_Eye (me@mx0520.gamewood.net) has left #3drealms Umm got to run *** Wipeout has quit IRC (Leaving) Nuke: You should read the Prey Preview I have from April 1996, it tells everything :) !addquote George, you guys seemed to know more about the game a year ago ;) nuke: we're done overhyping games. expect to hear little of dnf/prey until they are near release Lon, hehe, when it has those 320x200 screenshots? :) * MaxMoDEAD is 12AWAY Since: 2[126:57:36 PM2] Reason 2[12Auto Dead after 30 minutes Idle2] Pager 2[12OFF2] MsgLog 2[12ON2] Nuke: Yes. The site with the interview went down a year or two ago, but I e-mailed the author and got a copy. I'll be posting it on my Prey page sometime. what interview? lon: ehy post 2 year old info? that's pointless and confuses people George: It will be clearly marked in a historical section. George: Back to Modem Play. What about Window's Dial Up Networking? !quote °°\Brutality°°: test! (quote added by WipeuED on ) how come games like Quake play like shit on modems and are good on the net? *** Hawks_Eye (me@mx0520.gamewood.net) has joined #3drealms lon: if you go through your isp, even across town, that's still internet play no? anyone wanna play duke? modem play and internet play are just about mutally exclusive. why do you think unreal/quake 2 don't have them? George: I mean using Dial Up Networking to connect directly to someone else's modem. NO Hawk. You've asked it a 1000 times now There are still people without the internet I remember how fun playing Modem Duke with people around the town was <[Butane]> duke3d kicked ass because of he modem play.. A lot of peeps don't have an internet connection :-/ * bwernAWAY is: [Away]-[Since: 19:59:15 ]-[Reason: Auto-Away After 1800 Seconds ]-[Pager: ON ]-[Check out http://www.preyground.com for the latest Prey news!] lon: net play and modem play are different at the very core of the engine. a modem connect should be better than a laggy internet game however is my point. * Stal|AWAY is 5[AWAY] 2-[10After 30 mins.2]- 2[P/ON2] butane: we know, but the internet is the greater favorite of people well i do and i want to play duke but noone else does modem connect == 1on1 only though which is kind of lame these days Now people want hardcore multi-person deathmatches doing both migh very well cost 3-4 months *** I_HV_PWR (bsmith@DIALUP141.VABLA.USIT.NET) has joined #3drealms sup <[Butane]> ouch <[Butane]> What about a patch? :) 1on1 is good because its more personal than running into a room shooting rockets hoping they hit something that moves <[Butane]> eh, then it'd be like following int he fottsteps of id :-/ you have to out think your opponent hard to "patch" a major subsystem of the game 1on1 on a big level sucks though. as long as I can play over my network I'm happy :) coding modem to modem would not be worth it, i agree... but what lon said may be cool * SmArT1 is “AWAY“ “*“ Gone to get Icecream wtih sarah... bbl. “*“ Set away at 21:10:53 [PAGER ON (/ctcp SmArT1 PAGE)] <-A Script-> <[Butane]> (Abe): The fun part is looking for your opponent >:D *** Nitronian (zippo747@host44.pacinter.net) has joined #3drealms Smart1's mom is probably named Sarah ;) Yeah, but it gets boring when you both have looked for the past 20 minutes. Modem to Modem = Speed lon: yes, i miss those days too. nothing better than modem doom of duke 3d <[Butane]> LAN = anti-lagged Abe, only in maps too big for 1on1 <[Butane]> Although I've never played a game over lan :-| are those days gone? lan = not something you come across in every house I loved one on one Duke3D play Nuke: Problem is most are. ;) internet play SUCKS. lag is no fun. only people having fun are t1's/cable/maybe isdn's most new ones hawks: yes, they might very well be gone DSL is expanding fast though 1 on 1 duke3d rocks ass I have isdn and indeed I have hardly any lag on most US servers :) I'm happy :) else quake 2 or unreal or any other game would have modem play <[Butane]> One on one is focused.. now when you have like a 10 player game, wtf is going on? eh.. evol wanna play duke? *** I_HV_PWR (bsmith@DIALUP141.VABLA.USIT.NET) has left #3drealms 1 on 1 is the best. no new games dont have modem play because the people that develop them have t1 lines and dont give a flying shit ;) *** Hawks_Eye has quit IRC (Leaving) hahaha George: I heard that in Prey you can mix different kinds of networks together to form MultiPrey games. Such as your LAN to a Prey Server on the internet? hahahahah rockbitch.com * yarg|away is 5[AWAY] 2-[10After 30 mins.2]- 2[P/ON2] lon: with prey not done, nothing is committed to. yeah I saw one of their shows on TV once :) however, Internet play can be fun. I think you guys should take advantage of making your own engine and make the Internet play features of Prey more user friendly with GameSpy-like features built into the game rather than making people go through all the crap associated with playing internet games of Unreal and Quake Hex, they played in Oslo yesterday, I think I'm happy I didn't go ;) <[Butane]> yeh, too many optiosn suck :P nuke: i agree 100% with simplifying internet play. battle.net is the best so far ADSL supports speeds up to a T1 and is a lot cheaper. It may solve the lag problem of Internet play once it expands to more areas battle.net is full of cheaters :-) <[Butane]> haha People keep whinign about how the other player keep disconnecting <[Butane]> yeah, you can cheat in diablo and stuff :P only problem with ADSL is that it is only available in certain places. I doubt some places will have it for years it's available in my area right now :D hehe then again, I live in an urban area Modem Play again - One of the best utilities I have seen is called JServe for Doom. This program allows up to 4 player Deathmatches using any combo of Modems and Serial Cables. Who says Modem play is 1 on 1? jserve was kinda buggy with serial cables :-) God I'm old sucks don't it? I feel like doing a song and dance George: Any developments on an "AutoMap" feature in Prey? do it like in Descent Apogee published the first 3D game with an AutoMap - Blake Stone. lon: no, but it will be looked at. i think the map needs to come back I don't think automap is a priority thing :-) new 3D FPS games are really too detailed to have automap tho George: You mentioned before that Quake probably didn't have it because id software didn't have the time to add it in there. But Prey keeps going and going... :) *** Raptorman has quit IRC (Hey dont be mad cause I am awsome!! hehe Love ya Megan) they arent little box rooms like 4 years ago lon: means we have less time eh? rainbow six has a map and it's fine havent tried r6 yet, I plan on it Is it any good? <[Butane]> bah! <[Butane]> It's like Spec Ops. <[Butane]> reality sucks you suck ;) <[Butane]> ! -> [#3drealms] PING * NukeDukem listens to The Who - Who are you.mp3 George: How is MultiPrey in general progressing? * NukeDukem could guess the answer ;) *** Pinkus (~pinkus@willard-6.willard-oh.com) has joined #3drealms soon of a weiner son too georgey! w00 The map in Jedi Knight was pretty sweet i gotta use my mom's puter >:( Put a Railgun in DNF :) mine is raped was there ever a railgun that actually shot rails? i went on an impulse buying spree and somehow got home with a new ATX case, MB, and p2/266 only a 266? eww ;) * Abe thinks the rail gun idea is lame. Railgun rules when you have it mastered Quiet in here I can rack up over 100 rail kills on q2ctf4 :) nuke: they didn't have the 300 i wanted, i'm trading in the 266 in a couple days A 300 for a 266? there are different kinds? don't get carried away :P what type of motherboard did you get? *** sNeAkQ2DM (sneak@ip213-232.cc.interlog.com) has joined #3DRealms oh sweet moses what is this crap on TV nuke: gigabyte TX or some such BS oh gigabytes are good you bought it without knowing shit about it? er if they are what im thinking of ;) was it a 440LX or BX? how many slots? :) more importantly, how much are you paying for a 300mhz? LX, 3ISA, 1AGP 2 others is muh guess LX, BX... Someone gave me a 286 today. im psychic too, so dun doubt muh :D gave you a 286? What had you ever done to them to deserve that? :) nuke: i knew it took a P2, 66 mhz bus, 3 PCI, 3 ISA, one shared, 4 of those black ram sluts, AGP, two USB ports, and as i just found out, it takes a PS2 keyboard, which i donut have >:( i threw an old xt away ;) one i made pharaoh's tomb with ;) a convertor costs like $1 the commie bastard of a place im gonna buy from isnt open til monday :P I upgraded the 286 to a 486 and it screams now! :) Lon, seek help :) tempy: yah, but it doesn't matter worth shit when the store is closed :P Pinkus, that happened to me too, my keyboard wouldnt plug in ;) So, lucky for me, I had a joystick that my keyboard could go through and into the PS/2 port w00p !quote 640K -> 8MB, I also added a 120MB hard drive and a 250MB Tape Backup, woo. i used to have a converter, i can't find it now >:( °°\Brutality°°: was hopin to come and bitch at Evol and Killa, oh well ;) (quote added by Hexagon on Sat Aug 29 18:25:30 1998) that ain't funny only add funny quotes Might as well add "Hey guys" !quote mmm flapjack * Evol cant wait to get a PII 300 there arent any funny quotes from here Matt :) I'm beginning to believe it :) how much are you paying for the 300mhz pinkus? !addquote I'll brb. A joke in itself George: Almost forgot, do you remember the cheat code to TNG Triva? !addquote !addquote I'll brb. fuck no ;) I think only guards and ops should be able to add quotes :-) Star Trek? long since forgotten. probably have to dig out the source code for it nuke: the 266 was $250, i'm gonna give it back to them in a couple days along with $30 and get a p300 out of it George: Would anyone else know? siegler knows all he's the apogee archivist Don't you guys have to play webdarts or something? :-) $250 for a p2-266 is a big ripoff :) didn't a part of your car blow up G? ACK!!!! 266s are only like $180 and that's in this stank place Pink, but the 300 was $280? I'll also have to ask Joe about Trek Trivia. Joe will love that :) 266's are cheaper than 233's in some instances :P *** rocksockm (~pewp@209.31.70.35) has joined #3drealms matt: blew clutch, replaced. hit city titties, wrecked wheels, replaced. fan bets blew. replaced. still awaiting a custom clutch that will handle the hp been fun MY PRECIOUS MP3s ARE ON MY OTHER PUTER@%*(*^ damn, i can't listen to jungle boogie, someone is gonna die >:( nuke: yeah Run Forrest, Run :-) city titties? $280 isnt just horrible for a 300, but not the best by far *** bwernAWAY sets mode: +o rocksockm how much was the motherboard? (*^@( !quaote lane change bumps in road? bout 8 inches across, solid little "tits" that mark lanes !quote doh °°\Brutality°°: * xdaemon sucks some sluts blood (quote added by ChrisDay on Fri Aug 28 23:16:16 1998) aha :) I gotta cop me a feel Do they light up? :) We call 'em cats eyes :) rock: you any good at unreal yet? i need a beatdown * Tempy^ runs out and plays on the street George: Is LameSW ever going to happen? -> [Pinkus] PING * MattCake does nothing nuke: it fucking better be pretty close to the best, i get a discount of 10% over wholesale - how much have you seen them for? MB price, i didn't notice, but the total of the case, MB, ram, and CPU was $500-something lon: doubt it. too busy to mess with it. plus nobody will really care george havent been playing it Pinkus, that was far from 10% under wholesale been playing rainbow six unless their definition of wholesale = wholesale + $100 for the boss i gotta go buy it and play it all. meant to this weekend. maybe tomorrow hmmm i'll check on it again i shoulda gotten a receipt#$^*@$ $176 is pricewatch's lowest P2-266 cpu only price * Tempy^ chuckles where from pink? $230 is lowest for P2-300 $250 is what id call a "good price" £175 for P2 300 here what the hell does that mean? ;) bout 250 bucks ah :) bah, if you wanna check pricewatch you'll find lower prices for everything i can get at the local cheapass land, but half the time the price is invalid or something evol: local cheapass puter store, also a radio shack dealer, place i work haha 266mhz celeron for 95 bucks :D how much did you pay for the RAM? (and how much RAM) you can get celeron 266's for $75 and 300's for $90 George: Look at this - http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ncox/quake2.html nuke: 64 MB, not sure what kind/speed, $60 (almost sure that 's a ripoff) Pinkus, 1 168pin DIMM? well im looking at this site, not pricewatch if it was 1 DIMM that was a good price nuke: 2, dunno how many pins, it went into a black slot though, i don't know much about ram types *** JennaMIDI (jennamidi@cc1012111-a.srst1.fl.home.com) has joined #3drealms *** bwernAWAY sets mode: +v JennaMIDI * bwernAWAY is: [Away]-[Since: 19:59:15 ]-[Reason: Auto-Away After 1800 Seconds ]-[Pager: ON ]-[Check out http://www.wangsdojo.com for all your Shadow Warrior needs!] heyo pinkus, moron :) * Stal|AWAY is 5[AWAY] 2-[10After 30 mins.2]- 2[P/ON2] *** rocksockm is now known as rock * ResisT is 5[AWAY] 2-[10not around2]- 2[P/OFF2] *** ResisT is now known as ResisT|NA *** rock is now known as rockRSIX !quote bah :P wtf is the difference between SIMMs and DIMMs and SDRAM I got a PII-300 CPU/Fan + 440LX 83mhz Bus, 4 PCI 3ISA 1AGP 4DIMMs for $353, 1 10ns 64MB DIMM for $69, and an ATX case for $65 would $150 be worth an upgrade from k6-2 300 to a PII 300 full system? (everything else is the same but the chip/mobo) They are spelt different and the shipping costs a lot less than local sales tax spelt? they speak english in the uk? !! when i upgraded the MB i had to dump my old ram Hi George. ;) !!! Hi George. ;) spelt ?? spelled ?? spelt spelled hmm SIMMs are shorter and you have to use 2 at a time. Dimms are 1 at a time and longer.. DIMMs are a lot faster and most PII motherboards take DIMMs only Ah.... that old game... :P Hey Jenna what is this game you speak of? Hey Bunso, whassup? i wish i was my brother, i gave him my old p233, mb, case, ram, floppy drive, video card, another old mb, and a cyrix 200 would $150 be worth an upgrade from k6-2 300 to a PII 300 full system? (everything else is the same but the chip/mobo) ??? :) Repeating everything I say, George. spells0red ;) why would I do that? perhaps i failed to mention he's not getting a damn thing for xmas or bdays for the next century though uhm.... you haven't grown up? doh! Let's talk about games Evol, not quite * SmArT1 is away Gone to get Icecream wtih sarah... bbl. [PAGER ON] (/ctcp SmArT1 PAGE)] <-A Script-> haha, what a funny idea *** ChrisDEAD is now known as ChrisH * ChrisH set 12BACK - Away Since 2[128:44:50 PM2] Reason 2[12Auto Dead after 30 minutes Idle2] hey george well, except the k6 sux ;) * NukeDukem thinks Smart1's mom's name is Sarah heh ya its worse than i thought it was and all dammit stupid gay slowass p100 i tried looking at these old benchmarks on tomshardware.com but all the images are broken :P my sentiments exactly pink :D you in a p100 pink? :) Hmmm... I think I hurt his feelings... :\ hate to say it, but half the guys here are up to p450's now and most have p350's, or are getting them. damn hardware race. good thing intel is sort of cool * JennaMIDI slaps herself silly.... oops, too late. hehe i have no feelings. i'll get my cat to act like Rainman before i get this gay thing to switch to netscape argh I like my PII-300, and as long as your games do I could care less what other people have :) yah nuke, i hate slow puters >:( eww, an 18 player game of RR on q2dm8 the prices on k6-2 350's is crazy meanwhile ol' bunboy lives on with the same p100 he had when he joined #duke3d for the first time in his life ;) I can imagine how that would distract you, George. :) matt:full? no, 32 player server :) what's the ip? Imagine 20 player in The Slimy Place * yarg|away is 5[AWAY] 2-[10After 30 mins.2]- 2[P/ON2] Gotta suck *** Tempy^ is now known as TempyRR *** PCB (~pc_bomber@max1-58.airnet.net) has joined #3drealms 24.92.28.56:27966 I'm going I will observe from the outside :) hehe ok I haven't played in a while I hate bumping into people then getting a rocket up the ass I'll prolly suck bbl T1 begga i hate people who overestimate their server's abilities or bandwidth Floppy Vagina and Shit on a Stick or just how many players are good Nice names i hate finding servers where i have real good pings but they run some gayass mod ive never heard of :P 6-10 players for AQ2 is good CTF with more than 6-7 aside bites